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  • Graham
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1622
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

    #1

    Headlight washers stopped working

    Hi, today i noticed my washers for the headlights have stopped. There is no pump noise, or voltage drop. My windscreen washers are fine, can anyone shed any light on this problem, like where is the fuse?, is it independantly fused?, as the haynes coupe manual is (as always) a joke.
    Graham
    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein
  • jameswkr
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2003
    • 538
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    They only work when lights are switched on. You will need to remove the bumper to get access to the valve if its failed. HNY James

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    • Greg_S
      Administrator
      • Jul 2003
      • 12430
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      its worth checking the pipe to the jets, mine came off when I refitted my bumper before now.

      Greg
      Greg

      S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

      '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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      • s2carlo
        S2Forum Addict
        • Aug 2003
        • 252
        • Country: Netherlands

        #4
        Originally posted by Graham
        Hi, today i noticed my washers for the headlights have stopped. There is no pump noise, or voltage drop. My windscreen washers are fine, can anyone shed any light on this problem, like where is the fuse?, is it independantly fused?, as the haynes coupe manual is (as always) a joke.
        Graham
        BTDT.
        I had it on my 3B coupe, which has a separate tank with pump for the headlightwashers.

        I took out the plastic part inside the wheelarch to reach the tank and it's pump. Checked whether it got power when needed, it did.
        Then I took the pump out of the tank (watch out all water is coming out ). I reconnected the pump to the electric and checked whether it would turn when activated, it didn't, it was jammed.

        I cleaned the rotary part with carb.cleaner and tapwater. Tested the pump again, it was working again. Did some extra cleaning and testing and it stayed OK. I refitted it and it is still working, half a year later.

        All in all 1 hour work.

        Succes
        Carlo
        No power, no glory!
        S4 Avant, 2003, K&N-filter, 18", RNS-E, enough audio

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        • Graham
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1622
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

          #5
          Excellent, thankyou and a Happy New year to you all- my head is still pounding off last lights adventures
          Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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          • porkkis
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Aug 2003
            • 1994
            • Country: Finland

            #6
            ABY cars should have only one tank that is inside the arch. There are 2 pumps. Also a separate relay is used. So probably the pump or the relay is dead.

            MY91 3B cars have 2 separate tanks but afaik MY92 on only 1 tank is used.
            -

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            • Graham
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1622
              • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

              #7
              Does anyone know where the relay is?
              Also if possible the number on the relay, as i have a few spares.
              Cheers
              Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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              • porkkis
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Aug 2003
                • 1994
                • Country: Finland

                #8
                It's in the fusebox.
                Probably Scheinwerferreinung something.
                -

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                • s2avant
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 2426

                  #9
                  On the back row of the fuse box. Fourth one from the left. Doesn't have a relay number on the top (at least the brand new one I fitted last week in mine didn't).

                  Could well be the pump. My windscreen washer pump died without warning a couple of weeks back.

                  Ben
                  the best intentions are fraught with disappointment - gil grissom

                  sigpic
                  1994 ABY Avant - it's getting there

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                  • Graham
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1622
                    • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

                    #10
                    Cheers i will have a look. The mother in law (to be) is sooo gullable with these, over 5 times now, i have caught her out saying something along the linees of "have you seen the scratch above the headlight on the bonnet", and she always goes for a look where i apply the washers- Soaked every time
                    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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                    • Graham
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1622
                      • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

                      #11
                      Today i lost my rag with the car as it cut out on me nearly every time i took my foot off the accelerator and dipped the clutch so this evening i waged war. I removed the ISV and it was bunged up solid, so washed it out with 2 cans of carb cleaner (YUK- The crap inside was bad), and oiled it up, now it doesnt miss a beat . And while i was under the bonnet i decided to tackle the headlight washer problem. Unclipped the wire to the pump and pulsed the pump off my power pack and it worked (soaking me ). So i removed the relay, read the diagram and put a supply across the activator line and nothing. So i technically battered it off the walls and tried it again, Hey presto, it works a treat- lets see how long it takes to fook up again, if it dare . So i am all working (ish) again
                      Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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                      • Jas11n
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 5067
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Graham
                        Today i lost my rag with the car as it cut out on me nearly every time i took my foot off the accelerator and dipped the clutch so this evening i waged war. I removed the ISV and it was bunged up solid, so washed it out with 2 cans of carb cleaner (YUK- The crap inside was bad), and oiled it up, now it doesnt miss a beat .
                        Mines doing this at the minute doesn't cut out,,,,,just drops well below it's normal idle,,,then changes it's mind and bounces back up again,,,,,,,,,,every bloody time I dip the clutch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,weirdly though, if I sit in traffic for a couple of minutes,,,,it stops doing it

                        ISV getting cleaned good a proper tomorrow I think

                        How's tricks Graham
                        2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                        2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                        1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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                        • Graham
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 1622
                          • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

                          #13
                          Thats how mine was about 2 weeks ago, if you let it warm up in traffic it is ok but today it done my head in. Did you get the testers off Graham, i might be popping over there on Sunday as our lass has to go to a wedding convention with her mate, they wanted me to go LOL. I am fine, my calliper is on its way from america this weekend hopefully so i can get my big brakes on again. And the car other than my ISV problem is running sweet as a nut.
                          Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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                          • rotoryboy
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • May 2004
                            • 3281
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Mine did the same, so last week I cleaned the ISV. Fab.......ran like a dream, then coming home tonight it started again Oh well better do it again
                            Mark

                            Race Clio RS197

                            S2 Coupe ABY (Green) - RIP
                            S2 Coupe ABY (Blue) - Sold

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                            • Jas11n
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 5067
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Graham
                              Did you get the testers off Graham?
                              Not seen him yet mate, I'm not doing anything on Sunday,,,,,so may have a pop over too,,,,,if thats ok with Graham of course,,,,,I'll send him a PM.
                              Got a real bad back at the minute,,,,,hell on earth pressing the clutch down so much so, I let a 180bhp TT take me tonight


                              Originally posted by rotoryboy
                              Mine did the same, so last week I cleaned the ISV. Fab.......ran like a dream, then coming home tonight it started again Oh well better do it again
                              Any idea how much a new ISV is??,,,,,,,,anyone????????

                              You going to be around on Sunday too Mark? Nice one on the brakes mate,,,,,I got those I was talking about,,,,,,just need to find the time to shoot up and get them
                              2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                              2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                              1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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