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  • twoqu
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Sep 2003
    • 3103

    #1

    WTF are these?

    I have these on both doors in the same position. I suspect that the one on the drivers side is responsible for allowing water to breach the door seal allowing water in under the sill trim. After a downpour there is alway water hanging around that area.
    So what are they and should they be there?
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  • LYT4X
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Jul 2008
    • 177
    • Country: Scotland

    #2
    It's a locator for the door card and it should be in the hole that you can see behind it. It could be pushing against the door seal and letting water in, as you say.
    John

    A Small Collection...

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    • twoqu
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Sep 2003
      • 3103

      #3
      So basically one of the previous owners has had the door cards off and not replaced them correctly? So this tang should be inside the door frame where the slot in the door is.

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      • LYT4X
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Jul 2008
        • 177
        • Country: Scotland

        #4
        Yup!
        John

        A Small Collection...

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        • twoqu
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Sep 2003
          • 3103

          #5
          Originally posted by LYT4X
          Yup!
          Many thanks! Saved a lot of head scratching!

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          • twoqu
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Sep 2003
            • 3103

            #6
            Ok still confused about this. Can't see what it has to do with the door card at all. Seems to be associated with the window frame. Is it correctly fitted?
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            • david1980
              S2Forum Extremist
              • May 2014
              • 1025
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              its an adjuster for the window cartridge to allow it to be moved in/out with the removal/addition of more of the U shape metal pieces that you will find if you remove the bolt. You should be able to undo the bolt slightly and push them up out of sight.

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              • twoqu
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Sep 2003
                • 3103

                #8
                Apparently they are called Cover Plates p/n 895837517B! The diagram shows them fitted at the rear and the required number is 2. There seems to be another distance piece sandwiched between the frame and the door. Presuambly they are to prevent those pieces from dropping through the slots in the bottom of the doors but as fitted they are nowhere near them.
                Doesen't look like they have been disturbed in 25 years so am reluctant to touch them in case it causes other window issues. Clearly they are slotted so would move further, assuming they are not as far up as they can go.
                Can't seem to find a pic confirming the fitment.
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                • twoqu
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3103

                  #9
                  The only decent pic I can find of a bare door seems to show something square and shiney on the outside of the door skin which is suspiciously recessed rather than just a round washer.

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                  • twoqu
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3103

                    #10
                    Can anyone confirm that they are fitted correctly by looking at the bottom of their door. Don't have to take the doorcard off! To me it seems that would fit better if they were on the outside of the door with the bottom part through the slot into the door rather than on the inside with the clip outside the door.

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                    • UrS4boy
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      And this diagram doesn't help you? (Items 10 or 12 at the bottom of the door)

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                      • twoqu
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3103

                        #12
                        Not really as the shape of it could just as easily fit the inside of the door frame as the outside!
                        As fitted it seems to interfere with the door seal and it doesn't seem to offer much protection for the distance piece falling out, if that is its function. If it was bolted on the outside and the tang went through the slot into the door, then it wouldn't interfere with the door seal and be underneath the distance piece.
                        Just doesen't look right to me and the only reference I have is the other door which is exactly the same! That why I need a sanity check for correct fitment.

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                        • Nuvo
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3825

                          #13
                          It's dead simple, if you look to the first pic in your post, it shows the angled part of the "cover plate" following the contour of the door frame, where it should be positioned inside the slot so as not to interfere with the door seal. HTH.

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                          • twoqu
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 3103

                            #14
                            Thats half a answer!
                            I still don't know if its supposed to be sandwiched between the windowframe/distance piece side or the door/doorcard side if you see what I mean.
                            It will be bent all out of shape anyway now!

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                            • Nuvo
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3825

                              #15
                              It should be fitted on the outside of the frame, with the angled part inside the slot, i.e., it is placed directly underneath the washer of the hex bolt. I hope I've made myself clear.

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