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  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Front lower chassis brace

    Nothing particularly high tech this

    I've built a new lower brace to stiffen the car across the tunnel and to lock the subframe mounting points in, very similar to what Audi have done with the B5 and later chassis upfront.

    Made from 14 gauge 1" tube to keep weight down. Ally would have been nice but I can't weld it. Only using basic hand tools, notching tube is really, really difficult!



    It mounts onto the back two subframe bolts, and two brackets which I'd previously welded to the front of the chassis rails during my underbody refresh. There is plenty of clearance for a 3" system here and ground clearance is not a problem either, its lower profile than the cat protectors would be.

    It makes a noticeable improvement in the handling, the car feels sharper and more responsive, with less slop with the suspension loaded. From my testing on my private test roundabout you can hold a tighter line without scrubbing wide, there is more front end grip at the limit. Just like adding a strut brace all over again - a good free upgrade.







    The plan is to triangulate this back to another tunnel cross-brace just behind the gearbox. I'm going to be removing my resonator soon as it hangs too low wince I fitted the longer 6 speed box. Clearance is tricky and I need to leave room for a 3" system.

    I'm also working on a couple of little brackets to lock the rear subframe down.
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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Nice
    Cheers'en, AndyC
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    • Mcstiff
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Oct 2004
      • 504
      • Country: United States

      #3
      I've been thinking about one of these! Need to figure out 3" clearance, maybe some oval tube.


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      • Twenny Benson
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        • Jan 2011
        • 278
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Thats awesome, another one for the to do list

        Coping tube manually is a little challenging, I've used this in the past, only worth it if you have lots of different angles & dangles to pull off.

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        I found a downloadable version but for the life of me I can't find it.
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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Originally posted by Mcstiff
          I've been thinking about one of these! Need to figure out 3" clearance, maybe some oval tube.


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          Plenty of space for 3" with this one bar, a brace across the tunnel further back would be more tricky. I think it'd be easier on an S2 as they are slightly wider at the bottom of the tunnel for the cats, especially the 3B... but still very tricky, it'd need to go between the prop and and the exhaust.

          Originally posted by Twenny Benson
          Thats awesome, another one for the to do list

          Coping tube manually is a little challenging, I've used this in the past, only worth it if you have lots of different angles & dangles to pull off.

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          I found a downloadable version but for the life of me I can't find it.
          Thats an awesome little program dude, wish I'd had that before!
          I'm sure that'll be helpful for the other little bits I'm planning, nice one
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          • mcandmar
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Apr 2004
            • 5118
            • Country: Ireland

            #6
            Very nice. I fitted one of these to a CRX in my honda days and it made an amazing difference, and that car was half the weight of a coupe. If you can come up with a bolt on solution i'll take one
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            • andy10v
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2009
              • 5996
              • Country: Scotland

              #7
              Awesome, mind if I copy that as well?

              One thought, is the subframe alignment still able to be adjusted?
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              • Tonks4x4
                Retired OG Mod
                • Nov 2005
                • 3062
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                When i build roll cages for land rovers I use a hole saw in the pedestal drill to notch the tube.

                not my picture but gives you the idea....

                Works spot on.

                Audi Nut!!!

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                • Error404
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 19789
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Of course Andy, do as you please mate thats why I post these bits up
                  You'd need to get your subframe aligned first I guess, or use slightly oversize holes


                  Brian I saw those kind of fixtures for pillar drills and hand drills that mount in the vice, the good quality ones are still dear though, £150+
                  I guess you will get a lot of use out of yours mind

                  I did find these little gadgets that i though was a good idea: still not cheap though
                  PipeMaster® – Precision Pipe & Tube Fitting Tools for Welding & Fabrication Achieve perfect contour fits with PipeMaster's industry-leading pipe and tube fitting tools. Designed for welders, fabricators, and professionals, our precision coping templates ensure stronger welds, less waste, and
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                  • WabTheKing
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • May 2004
                    • 2567
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    great bit of work there pal

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                    • SE_30
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                      • Apr 2010
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                      #11
                      You should start taking orders.. Nice bit of work
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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I like that I'd like to recreate that for a 3" exhaust, would need to put in a fixing on the exhaust and bracket to stop them touching

                        Very popular mod on the Golf MK 2 and it makes a huge difference

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          There is plenty of clearance for a 3" system, you could get a 4" through if you tried - probably need to alter the front section to suit though, exhaust builders are lazy they will probably have followed a straight line not followed the route of maximum clearance
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                          • Greg_S
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 12431
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SE_30
                            You should start taking orders.. Nice bit of work
                            Yeah I reckon there will be quite a few takers, what is it like for ground clearance once it is in place?

                            Does it fit the rear too?
                            Greg

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                            • Error404
                              Super Moderator
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 19789
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Maybe you can see the ground clearance better in this pic:



                              It does not reduce the ground clearance even as much as the OE Cat protectors on an ABY.

                              Rear is more difficult, I'm working on something
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