Alpinweiss laid bare! Dashless content warning! AC removal.

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  • rynaqui
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Mar 2012
    • 2752
    • Country: Malta

    #16
    I think it would be different due to how the interior would have to be layed out.. as well as parts of the engine bay and wiring to and from the interior cabin to the engine bay..but don't quote me on that one
    1996 S2 ABY Silver

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    • UrS4boy
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Feb 2006
      • 11859
      • Country: Canada

      #17
      Originally posted by benntenn67
      Odd question time - are LHD & RHD shells the same ?
      No. Some of the components of the shells were the same but others, i.e. the fire wall, (aka "cross panel") and the water box (cowl well), had different PNs LHD and RHD.

      This does not explain why the RHD Engine to ECU harness comes from the right side to go to the left side.

      But it does.
      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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      • benntenn67
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Jun 2009
        • 859
        • Country: England

        #18
        Originally posted by UrS4boy
        No. Some of the components of the shells were the same but others, i.e. the fire wall, (aka "cross panel") and the water box (cowl well), had different PNs LHD and RHD.

        This does not explain why the RHD Engine to ECU harness comes from the right side to go to the left side.

        But it does.
        Thanks - You never know, it might come up in a pub quiz
        Audi S2 Coupe 1995
        VW Passat GL5 (hatch) 1986
        VW Passat GL 1.8 (saloon) 1986
        Carrera Subway 8

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Originally posted by UrS4boy
          No. Some of the components of the shells were the same but others, i.e. the fire wall, (aka "cross panel") and the water box (cowl well), had different PNs LHD and RHD.

          This does not explain why the RHD Engine to ECU harness comes from the right side to go to the left side.

          But it does.
          On the RHD The engine harness comes through the firewall/bulkhead on the left, where the ECU is mounted then the rest of the loom travels across the the right side where the fuse board, aux relay panel and general spaghetti of wiring looms terminate

          The firewall and scuttle panel pressings I would bet are the same. The RHD and LHD have different holes punched out of them and have different parts numbers as you confirmed, but it would not be hard to convert form RHD to LHD or viceversa you would just need to cut the right holes in the firewall, patch over some holes etc and add some weld pins. The LHD and RHD fuseboard and airbox intake might even be interchangeable in the scuttle panel. It would make sense to manufacture the shell that way

          Some other items such as the outboard rack mounting bracket, dash cross bar, steering column mountings are also different LHD to RHD.
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • UrS4boy
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Feb 2006
            • 11859
            • Country: Canada

            #20
            Originally posted by Error404
            On the RHD The engine harness comes through the firewall/bulkhead on the left, where the ECU is mounted then the rest of the loom travels across the the right side where the fuse board, aux relay panel and general spaghetti of wiring looms terminate.
            Okay. *That* makes sense. I was confused by the photo, thinking the harness came from the RH side and went to the left. But the branch of the harness (in the yellow cloth tape) that is laying above the transmission hump must, as you say, be heading *TO* the under steering wheel relay panel, etc. Thanks for the correction.

            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • Airwolf
              S2Forum Fanatic
              • Jun 2017
              • 79
              • Country: Norway

              #21
              Im reading true this old thread. Having difficulties with my AC system with digital panel. Im not using the AC and its out of the car. I want to go manual. What did you do regarding the wiring of this swap ?


              Thanks in advance

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                No digital climate available on UK cars so afraid I cant help.

                Maybe get a manual heater box, loom and dials and just make it work? Any similar lesser spec car should do.
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • Airwolf
                  S2Forum Fanatic
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 79
                  • Country: Norway

                  #23
                  Thanks for the respond. I will try to fit a manual heater. Can i take the parts from a Audi 80 v6 cab or something?

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                  • Rusty
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 18953
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Not sure, maybe check parts catalogue? Should work, or couod be made to work.
                    Cheers'en, AndyC
                    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                    • Error404
                      Super Moderator
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 19789
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Don't go manual
                      If you remove the engine side of the AC system only, then the climate will work just fine, except you won't be able to go colder than ambient temperature
                      If you want to fit the manual heater system, then you need to replace the heater box with a manual one to have the cable controls.
                      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                      Indigo ABY coupé
                      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                      • Error404
                        Super Moderator
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 19789
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        You can find all the 3B & ABY wiring schematics on S2Central

                        Go to Technical Data, Electrical Systems, S2 Current Flow Diagrams

                        An on-line resource for information on the Audi S2 manufactured between 1990 and 1995.






                        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                        Indigo ABY coupé
                        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                        • Airwolf
                          S2Forum Fanatic
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 79
                          • Country: Norway

                          #27
                          Can I just swap the heater box with wires and manual panel or do i have to change the blower too?

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            So AFAIK there are 4 types of LHD heater box

                            1. Manual cable operated non-AC
                            2. Manual cable operated AC
                            3. Analogue climate vacuum operated
                            4. Digital climate electric motor operated

                            Which one do you want to fit?
                            Whether you have AC or not, digital climate panel and box is the way to go in my opinion.
                            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                            Indigo ABY coupé
                            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                            • Airwolf
                              S2Forum Fanatic
                              • Jun 2017
                              • 79
                              • Country: Norway

                              #29
                              I ordered a complete set for Manual heating. Going old school and keeping it clean and simple.

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