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  • 4WheelDrifter
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2004
    • 5773
    • Country: Devon

    #16
    I believe it was blasted. The one I saw had no thermal coating.
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    • audiman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Jul 2003
      • 4827
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Another question, whats that brake pipe coming out of it for??
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      Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
      Audi UR Quattro
      Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
      Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
      Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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      • 4WheelDrifter
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Oct 2004
        • 5773
        • Country: Devon

        #18
        Is it not for the EGT probe?
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        • Mark Halligan
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jul 2003
          • 2001
          • Country: England

          #19
          Originally posted by Audi Parts Guru
          I personally wouldn't fit a manifold like this to my car if it required modding like this. Also, it doesn't look that well designed as the runners look to be quite long and subsequently this means that the turbo is a fair distance from the head resulting in possible fatigue due to the weight of the turbo and also of the fact that It's made of mild steel

          I have one of these manifolds too, I don't think there is anything wrong with its design at all, in fact IMO it is one of the best I have seen, both in design and attention to detail and finish. I am not just saying that because I have one, I have paid good money for plenty of 'lemons' in the past and will freely admit when I have done so!

          As Stu said the collector is a beautiful piece of work and as far as strength goes I'll bet my right nut it is stronger than a lot of SS EM's and will not suffer from cracking as readily, Tom has BTDT.

          All tubular EM's benefit if not need support of some kind, I have got around this by building a support bracket of a rigid tripod design fixed to the head and in turn fixed to the turbo using a double spherical bearing assembly from a Cosworth Bailey turbo damper kit.

          Its just a shame that it is taking me so long to get it all together and finished.

          The finish on this EM comes from the maker with a sand blasted finish.

          Mark.
          Last edited by Mark Halligan; 30 June 2005, 22:52.
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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Originally posted by Mark Halligan
            I have one of these manifolds too, I don't think there is anything wrong with its design at all, in fact IMO it is one of the best I have seen, both in design and attention to detail and finish. I am not just saying that because I have one, I have paid good money for plenty of 'lemons' in the past and will freely admit when I have done so!

            As Stu said the collector is a beautiful piece of work and as far as strength goes I'll bet my right nut it is stronger than a lot of SS EM's and will not suffer from cracking as readily, Tom has BTDT.

            All tubular EM's benefit if not need support of some kind, I have got around this by building a support bracket of a rigid tripod design fixed to the head and in turn fixed to the turbo using a double spherical bearing assembly from a Cosworth Bailey turbo damper kit.

            Its just a shame that it is taking me so long to get it all together and finished.

            The finish on this EM comes from the maker with a sand blasted finish.

            Mark.
            You just reminded me Mark!, here's some pics to back Mr H up taken at the RR meeting.
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            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              2nd pic
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              • porkkis
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Aug 2003
                • 1994
                • Country: Finland

                #22
                Isn't the problem the internal WG here? Can you find a hot side housing without a WG and use an external one to get more clearance?
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                • martinjs
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3205
                  • Country: England

                  #23
                  I have seen one of these manifolds in the flesh and was very impressed. I thought it was best to have all the runners the same length?

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                  • audiman
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 4827
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Thats car porn.
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                    Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                    Audi UR Quattro
                    Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                    Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                    Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                    • jogi730
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 2335
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Originally posted by audiman
                      Another question, whats that brake pipe coming out of it for??
                      It is as Stuart suggests an EGT probe
                      Cheers
                      Chris
                      Audi 90 quattro (Typ 85)
                      20v turbo conversion

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                      • Dutch_RsBlueS2
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 285
                        • Country: Netherlands

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mark Halligan
                        I have one of these manifolds too, I don't think there is anything wrong with its design at all, in fact IMO it is one of the best I have seen, both in design and attention to detail and finish. I am not just saying that because I have one, I have paid good money for plenty of 'lemons' in the past and will freely admit when I have done so!

                        As Stu said the collector is a beautiful piece of work and as far as strength goes I'll bet my right nut it is stronger than a lot of SS EM's and will not suffer from cracking as readily, Tom has BTDT.

                        All tubular EM's benefit if not need support of some kind, I have got around this by building a support bracket of a rigid tripod design fixed to the head and in turn fixed to the turbo using a double spherical bearing assembly from a Cosworth Bailey turbo damper kit.

                        Its just a shame that it is taking me so long to get it all together and finished.

                        The finish on this EM comes from the maker with a sand blasted finish.

                        Mark.
                        Totally agree with you here mark, if the material is chosen right it doenst have to be a good grade of SS to make a good EM.

                        This looks defenetly great, the collector as well, this is one of the best non-SS manifolds i`ve seen.
                        Do you know the exact material which has been used for this manifold? i`d like to compare it to SS 321.

                        Cheers

                        Cees

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                        • jogi730
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 2335
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          This MAnifold comes with a 6 month guarantee against warping and cracking providing that both the turbo and downpipe are supported which would be commonsense anyway. Also, any welding repairs thereafter are carried out for free (minus costs of p&p). HAving encountered problems with my install, I can also tell all that I have had some serious customer services to get me out of my predicament. Most companies would have washed their hands or offered a refund at the most!
                          Looking at the piece, it is obvious it has been designed with flow in mind. The guys at Powerspeed, where I am having my downpipe made (all manderel bends), make manifolds themselves and they are most impressed with the design and the workmanship. Apparently they would design one very similar, but it would cost much more money as a one off!
                          Powerspeed (Ashford, Kent Tel. 01233 662225 speak to Dave) also a great bunch of guys helping me out big time. THey are doing the mods to my wing (cutting and strengthening) and making supports for turbo and downpipe, fitting me in and helping me out despite a heavy workload.
                          I think that maybe the fact that they are car and Audi nuts helps! But nice to know good people do exist out there.
                          As for not modding the wing as someone has suggested, don't see what the problem is..... the whole car is modded.... dohhhhh!!!!
                          Cheers
                          Chris
                          Last edited by jogi730; 1 July 2005, 09:04.
                          Audi 90 quattro (Typ 85)
                          20v turbo conversion

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                          • Billman
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 4129

                            #28
                            @mark
                            can you give us a picture of your turbo support?
                            Go Holset or Go RS4

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                            • Mark Halligan
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 2001
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Billman
                              @mark
                              can you give us a picture of your turbo support?
                              Well I don't want to hijack Chris's thread really, but here is a pic of the turbo support bracket bolted on the engine but with the wrong turbo and manifold so its not connected, I bolted it on there to dry the paint on it LOL. But you get the idea.
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                              • Mark Halligan
                                S2Forum Fiend
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 2001
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                From another angle, its really suprisingly rigid and stiff with no movement and provides a good support.
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                                Last edited by Mark Halligan; 1 July 2005, 18:30.
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