Anybody got a 3" downpipe from Longlife?

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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    For comparisson the Milltek system is about £1000 - £1200 for 2.75" turbo back with sports cat. The cat is about £200 from memory but don't quote me on that.

    I've heard varying reports about Longlife in South Gloucestershire and seen different levels of success when they've done friends' exhausts. They messed up a friend's Cosworth and did the same trick you described at the beginning of the thread. For that reason I did not go to them when I got my exhaust in November. Cardiff are supposed to be much better but that's hearsay and not experience I'm afraid.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • s2driveruk
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2003
      • 12696
      • Country: England

      #17
      cardiff is where they started out with Longlife and the guy who did my original system was a craftsman. I then had it reworked (for free) at Carlshalton and again no issues. It was their 2nd site and I think half of the Cardiff people were there setting up the franchise. Personally i think that is the issue, they are franchises and the quality seems to vary be it prices, workmanship and even customer service.
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      • waveydavey
        S2Forum Addict
        • Oct 2004
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        #18
        Spoke to Leeds and don't feel that much further forward.

        The boss said they didn't do the downpipe cos they couldn't get it out without taking the turbo off and they would not do that. He also said that the turbo end of the downpipe is a casting and they wouldn't replace that with tube anyway.

        I told him that at least two of you have had 3" turbo back done at Berkeley and he says he hasn't been able to get through to them to confirm but if I can get registration numbers of the cars he would be able to check up what had been done on his computer system. So CHEN and Ross (and anyone else who has a Longlife 3" turbo back system), would you mind PMing me your registration numbers so that I can do this.

        As a last comment, the boss said that if I could get my downpipe to him when my turbo is off he would try and make a 3" downpipe for me to take back and fit to the car as it is reassembled. Although I have reservations about doing this in case the bigger tube fouls on part of the engine/body etc I think it'd be best to try with another downpipe so that I've got the new one ready to hand to the guy that's fitting my new turbo. So, does anybody have a secondhand ABY (or RS2) downpipe kicking around that I could either buy or borrow? Even better would be if someone has a 3" downpipe that I could borrow for them to use as a pattern.

        Cheers

        David
        1994 16v Coupe - Sold on and sadly missed
        1994 S2 Avant - Warmed up a bit
        1995 A6 Avant - Dag Dag Delight

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        • waveydavey
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          • Oct 2004
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          #19
          Just phoned Quattronics and asked what size the outlet on my new hybrid 2871 turbo is. It's 57mm (approx 2.25 inches) diameter so the question is, do I really need 3" exhaust tube at the turbo flange?

          As I understand it the S2 downpipe is 2.5 inches (and the RS2 one is 2.75 inches) so am I correct in saying that there is already room for the exhaust gasses to expand into even with the standard downpipe?

          Would a transistion from the 2.25" turbo outlet through the 2.5" cast part of the S2 downpipe then into a 3" pipe give a better flow for the exhaust gases than just dumping them straight from the 2.25" turbo into a 3" pipe?

          Cheers

          David
          1994 16v Coupe - Sold on and sadly missed
          1994 S2 Avant - Warmed up a bit
          1995 A6 Avant - Dag Dag Delight

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          • waveydavey
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            • Oct 2004
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            #20
            Here are a few photos of the new exhaust
            Attached Files
            1994 16v Coupe - Sold on and sadly missed
            1994 S2 Avant - Warmed up a bit
            1995 A6 Avant - Dag Dag Delight

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            • waveydavey
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              • Oct 2004
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              #21
              Another
              Attached Files
              1994 16v Coupe - Sold on and sadly missed
              1994 S2 Avant - Warmed up a bit
              1995 A6 Avant - Dag Dag Delight

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              • BRY
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                • Nov 2004
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                #22
                I have an RS2 downpipe that you can borrow.
                If they damage it they pay for a new one.
                Kingdoms are run by Kings, Dictatorships are run by Dictators.
                England must be a Country. :mischeif:

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                • waveydavey
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                  • Oct 2004
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by BRY
                  I have an RS2 downpipe that you can borrow.
                  If they damage it they pay for a new one.
                  Thanks for the offer BRY

                  Having thought about it a bit more I think the best route is to buy a cheap S2 or RS2 downpipe and let them modify it by grafting on the 3" stainless pipe to the cast section. If I borrowed your downpipe I'd worry that they'd want to modify it rather than fabricate a new turbo flange.

                  I'll put a wanted ad in the classified section.

                  Cheers

                  David
                  1994 16v Coupe - Sold on and sadly missed
                  1994 S2 Avant - Warmed up a bit
                  1995 A6 Avant - Dag Dag Delight

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                  • waveydavey
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                    • Oct 2004
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by waveydavey
                    Thanks for the offer BRY

                    I'll put a wanted ad in the classified section.
                    Err, scrub that.

                    Just been to see tha chap who'll be fitting my new turbo (AutoMark) and he's lent me an S2 downpipe to send off to Longlife

                    Cheers

                    David
                    1994 16v Coupe - Sold on and sadly missed
                    1994 S2 Avant - Warmed up a bit
                    1995 A6 Avant - Dag Dag Delight

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Originally posted by waveydavey
                      Err, scrub that.

                      Just been to see tha chap who'll be fitting my new turbo (AutoMark) and he's lent me an S2 downpipe to send off to Longlife

                      Cheers

                      David
                      What happened with this in the end? which branch was the downpipe sent to?

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                      • K7ERG
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1711
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #26
                        I got one made. But it was a mate who done it. I kept the original cast bit and where the original pipe is. Cut it there and 3" from there back. Mandrel 3" bends.


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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
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                          #27
                          Want a true 3 inch downpipe from tip to tale. Most I've seen have a 2.5 to 3" taper at the start but with a Garrett turbo the outlet is 3"

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                          • K7ERG
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 1711
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #28
                            Yep 3" all the way back from the cast part with lambda sensor. They never had dies for 3" at the time so had it made from 3" pipe and bends.
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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by K7ERG
                              Yep 3" all the way back from the cast part with lambda sensor. They never had dies for 3" at the time so had it made from 3" pipe and bends.
                              The cast part is a 2.5 taper on the oem manifold as the KKK turbo outlet is 2.5 inch not 3 inch like a GT-R turbo

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                              • K7ERG
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 1711
                                • Country: Scotland

                                #30
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