Why upgrade to RS2 airbox and IC?

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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    My airbox is bodged within an inch of it's life Paul, sorry to let you down (linky) No experience of the RS2 airbox but it's a fair amount of wedge that could be put towards a more fundamental upgrade like remap, exhaust or turbo.

    Matt, thanks for the reminder about torque. IMO the k24 is a bit small for the I5 so a turbo capable of slightly higher flow is a good idea. The increase in lag would be minimal and you're still going to have plenty of torque and more of it up top, hence more power.

    There really weren't any noticable benefits to fitting the RS2 IC on my setup, a custom remap would undoubtedly have given useful gains but there was no noticable change to drive and the rollers just confired this. £300 is a long way towards a decent exhaust and I'd spend my money there on a standard car.

    Paul, the number indcates that there was a 20ftlbs increase with the RS2 IC before & after
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • newsh
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Aug 2003
      • 16226
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      What you see with the RS2 airbox is that the filter is repositioned for better flow, in the ABY box the plastic top is quite close to the filter panel and obscures about a 1/2 of the area, there's some comparo pics in my project thread (click the link in my sig below, page 5). Cooler air = more oxygen = greater volumetric efficiency. I noticed the RS2 IC big time, but I was coming from a 3B unit so quite a jump, I was on a homefry at the time. I'm now on a monster IC (and RS2 spec remap) and noticed that increase too. And yeah, its all about torque and midrange for me.
      Last edited by newsh; 19 February 2008, 09:34.

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      • tobodestroyer
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Dec 2005
        • 174
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Paul,

        How much is an RS2 airbox and where do I get one? If I do, is it literally a straight swap? Likewise, how much and how easy to change the IC?

        Tobo

        p.s. I'm still loving your Homefry

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        • newsh
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Aug 2003
          • 16226
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Tobo, I got my RS2 box second hand, if you put some feelers out and stay patient.. IC the same, I just sold mine but they come up from time to time.

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            RS2 IC requires a modified cross member or RS2 cross member. Airbox requires a new plastic bit behind the headlight.
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • TEKNOPUG
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Mar 2007
              • 125
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Is the overboost on the ABY ECU dynamic in anyway? By that I mean, will it boost up to a certain level and only back off once variables such as fuel, inlet temps etc meet a predetermined level? In other words, if you improved the IC (reduce inlet temps) and fueling, would it overboost for longer/harder? Or is the ECU set to overboost to a certain level and time regardless of additional mods (all things being equal such as the lamda/knock giving safe readings)? Just trying to understand a little more of how the engine is set up and where there are opportunities for exploiting improvements.

              Also, by small hybrid turbo, what sort of size are we talking - T28 for example or T3+
              1990 Peugeot 205 1.9 Turbo 192bhp - 190lbs/ft
              1996 Vauxhall Omega 3.0V6 Ex-Plod - cop motor, cop shocks, cop brakes, cop LSD. Cheap, tatty and comically sideways!

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Small hybrid is a less aggressive version of a K24/26 hybrid than the RS2 unit as per Nothelle or MTM.

                Overboost seems to be load and engine speed related as well as being linked to how fast you press the throttle. Personally I'd prefer to get rid of it altogether and run overboost boost levels all the time (IME this is waht MRC do with their chips).
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • Matt_D
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 515
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by S2central.net
                  Do us a favour - get some VAGCOM acceleration runs before and after if you can - say from 30-70 (ish), WOT in 6th...

                  And do the RS2 IC last - I'd like to see three sets of results...

                  1 - Stock engine with homefries
                  2 - RS2 airbox (doesn't matter so much about MAF but hey)
                  3 - RS2 IC

                  try to do it on same stretch of road, a few times to average out and make sure the car is properly warmed up but isn't heat-soaked on any run.

                  Logging IAT is crucial here - I should have old logs myself - aint done it in ages but happy to do so for comparative purps....
                  I don't have VAGCOM unfortunetly, i can try and time it with a stopwatch not brilliant i know but it should give us a rough idea
                  '95 ABY Avant - Sold
                  '98 B5 S4 -MRC400+ = 464ps 741nm

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                  • Flat on my back
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2449
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
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                    That'll be past Parklands on the Northern bypass then?

                    Dont use the Golden Valley (errrr...sounds rude )the cops have their base just off the motorway roundabout.
                    Carlos.

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