New Exhaust - what should I look for?

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  • Dr H
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1175
    • Country: England

    #16
    I'll let you all know what happens on this. As far as I am aware they keep patterns for every exhaust so once it's done they should be able to reproduce. I reckon the best way is to get them to make a downpipe and cat (maybe in 2 pieces) and then this would be standard to both coupe and Avant.

    I was wondering if it might be a thought to try and get the cat built into the downpipe - closer to the turbo than the standard set up. Not sure if there is emough room but I will ask them what they reckon.

    Can you put a cat too close to the turbo? I know normally aspirated cars have them almost right after the manifold now .

    Anyone got an old ABY downpipe I could borrow to take with me. Paul was yours cut up to get it off?

    Cheers

    Leigh
    Ex 1994 Avant - now driving a Lotus 340r

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    • APNess
      S2Forum Addict
      • Jul 2003
      • 479
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Just what the doctor ordered (below). The metal heat shield around it is cruddy but there's nothing wrong with the downpipe as far as I can see. Still get confirmation of day off, but if I can't go to the visit I'll meet up beforehand and you can do what you want with it.

      Paul
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      'The Bacofoil Express'...

      No more.

      Leon TDI 150 run in now.

      Very slow.

      Needs a chip.

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      • Dr H
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2003
        • 1175
        • Country: England

        #18
        Originally posted by APNess
        Just what the doctor ordered (below). The metal heat shield around it is cruddy but there's nothing wrong with the downpipe as far as I can see. Still get confirmation of day off, but if I can't go to the visit I'll meet up beforehand and you can do what you want with it.

        Paul
        @Apness

        Nice one mate we could always go across earlier than the visit if you like. I'd like to get a quote asap

        Speak to you soon

        Leigh
        Ex 1994 Avant - now driving a Lotus 340r

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        • Dr H
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1175
          • Country: England

          #19
          Originally posted by Dr H
          Cheers Guys

          I've spoken to JP Exhausts and they have given me a ballpark price for a 3" SS turbo back (inc downpipe) system with a sports cat that is soooo cheap I 'm not going to reveal it until I've seen them to get a proper quote

          I'm thinking maybe a full 3" system might be a bit too much - maybe I;ll go for a 70mm one - lets wait and see.

          Once I have had them look at the car and quote me I'll let you all know
          Thought it was too good to be true just spoke to JP again and now they tell me they don't do sports cats (but they will fit one if I get one) they don't want to do the downpipe cause its a bit difficult, and they only do up to 2.5" pipe (which I find a bit hard to believe)

          Anyone got any other ideas as to where I can get an exhaust made in the north?

          I know a place that will make sports cats to order for about £250-300 so that bit is no problem.

          Cheers
          Ex 1994 Avant - now driving a Lotus 340r

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          • APNess
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            • Jul 2003
            • 479
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            I take it you tried Ascar in Sheffield (0114 272 2888/7072)?

            Also try Tiger Automotive 01977 609060 in 'Upton' near Wakefield (WF9 1JS)
            Top Gear Performance 01302 337722 - Powerflow job though, so dunno if you want that.

            Just some numbers from the leaflets I got from the Custom Crap show in Donnie.

            Paul
            'The Bacofoil Express'...

            No more.

            Leon TDI 150 run in now.

            Very slow.

            Needs a chip.

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            • Dr H
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1175
              • Country: England

              #21
              Originally posted by APNess
              I take it you tried Ascar in Sheffield (0114 272 2888/7072)?

              Paul
              They made my completely crap decat y-piece thingy. It isn't mandrel bent so the bends are acutally smaller crosss section and it was blowing when I picked it up. They told me it wasn't, I took it back the next day and they admitted it was. They 'fixed' it but when I came to take it off all I found was a load of gunk stuffed ina joint to seal it up

              Seem to be good a doing stupid multi-tailpipe crap on saxos and stuff. Saw one the other day in Sheffield with 5 or 6 tailpipes I think
              Ex 1994 Avant - now driving a Lotus 340r

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              • martinjs
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Jul 2003
                • 3205
                • Country: England

                #22
                How about longlife, have heard good things about them, but the nearest centre to you leigh is in birmingham :-]



                martin

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                • Stick Insect
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2338
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  A couple of options
                  www.mongooseexhausts.co.uk are willing to look at making systems up to 3" mandrel bent. They are part of Collins performance run by the famed Sue Collins. Sierra and RS200 tuner.

                  01260-279604

                  ask for Martin


                  Another Macclesfield to look at may be http://www.tubetorque.co.uk/

                  HTH

                  David

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                  • Beetie
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1517
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Originally posted by martinjs
                    How about longlife, have heard good things about them, but the nearest centre to you leigh is in birmingham :-]



                    martin
                    This is where im getting mine from, hopefully before GTI, but we'll have to see! I was going to mention these but looks like you beat me to it!
                    They quoted me 500 for downpipe back, if that helps...
                    Was a '93 3B, Dont ask now tho......

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                    • Dr H
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1175
                      • Country: England

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Stick Insect

                      Another Macclesfield to look at may be http://www.tubetorque.co.uk/

                      HTH

                      David
                      I have heard good things about these guys from a friend. I think I'll have to give them a call. I'll probably try the others too. I'm planning on borrowing APNess's old downpipe for them to use as a pattern.

                      Cheers guys

                      Leigh
                      Ex 1994 Avant - now driving a Lotus 340r

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                      • Stick Insect
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2338
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dr H
                        I have heard good things about these guys from a friend. I think I'll have to give them a call. I'll probably try the others too. I'm planning on borrowing APNess's old downpipe for them to use as a pattern.

                        Cheers guys

                        Leigh
                        I'm sorry that JP aren't able to help, if you fancy coming down anyway you are welcome. Maybe you could check out Tube torque, see Mongoose 8 miles away from Macc and pop back to JP for the tour and a pint!..

                        David

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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Originally posted by martinjs
                          How about longlife, have heard good things about them, but the nearest centre to you leigh is in birmingham :-]



                          martin
                          Where in birmingham???

                          They've opened one in Walsall but not Brum!

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                          • Doug_RS2
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3847
                            • Home: Scotland Current: England

                            #28
                            Tubetorque did the exhaust I have on my car. It was the previous owner that had it done (he was in Sheffield so might be the same place?). There are a few points that a specialist I took it to noticed:

                            1. It wasn't the best grade of Stainless to use - he would have used the better grade on mine(can't remember grades)

                            2. The mounts for the cats are offsett slightly so when the cats are fitted for mot time, they sit at an angle and sit lower.

                            3. The specialist up here would have put a flexi pipe in the exhaust as the whole thing is solid.

                            4. There were no supports at the point where the cats are fitted - this means the complete exhaust weight is hung off the manifold/turbo.

                            5. there are no strengthening bars on the inlet and outlets of the silencers so the welds tend to split.

                            The best thing about the my exhaust is it sounds really good - although I had to get most of these points above fixed - apart from the flexi joint - I will get that when I make my own.

                            If you make sure they get those things sorted then it would be a good exhaust!
                            S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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                            • s2driveruk
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 12696
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Well happy with my longlife - sounds sweet, looks subtle and their warranty is good too, completely remade mine when we realised it was not quite the right pipe diameter without complaint. They have places in Gloucs, Croydon and Cardiff as far as i can remember....

                              Cheers,

                              David
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                              1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                              • Dr H
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 1175
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Doug_RS2

                                3. The specialist up here would have put a flexi pipe in the exhaust as the whole thing is solid.
                                Are the flexi pipes absolutley necessary? If you consider my stock exhaust - that's solid isn't it
                                Ex 1994 Avant - now driving a Lotus 340r

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