RS2 EM genuine or good copy?

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  • K Simmonds
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2007
    • 7633
    • Country: Wales

    #1

    RS2 EM genuine or good copy?

    This arrived from Germany today, look real enough to me but I thought I'd get some other opinions.
    Attached Files
    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
    1994 MTM RS2.
    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
    2000 B5 TQS.
  • K Simmonds
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2007
    • 7633
    • Country: Wales

    #2
    And a shot of the all important wastegate flange, the holes look nice and central and all the studs are square to each other.
    Attached Files
    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
    1994 MTM RS2.
    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
    2000 B5 TQS.

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    • nip
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Apr 2006
      • 1786
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: Abu Dhabi

      #3
      looks the same as my one

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      • fish
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Aug 2007
        • 2335
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: Sweden

        #4
        the top left stud on WG flange isn´t centered... Look ok though.
        Audi 80 Competition -94 Daily driver

        www.garaget.org/fish for more pic´s of my cars

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        • Rusty
          Super Moderator
          • Jun 2004
          • 18953
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          How mcuh did you pay?
          Cheers'en, AndyC
          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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          • K Simmonds
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Dec 2007
            • 7633
            • Country: Wales

            #6
            £240 delivered. The seller has more by the looks of it, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=014
            1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
            1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
            1994 MTM RS2.
            1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
            2000 B5 TQS.

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            • kwlw
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Sep 2004
              • 1025
              • Country: Lithuania

              #7
              Copy for sure. I'm not big expert, however I have good memory for pictures. And those pictures does not match RS2 manifold by looks .

              EDIT: However build quality of this one, put me somewhat in doubt. I have checked my RS2 manifold pictures in my archive and come to the conclusion, that this one is cast much better than usual RS2 replicas. Maybe some improved knock off version 2? Machining however is done quite badly, I hardly believe, that this was done properly.

              So that thing MAY be genuine, or at least better copy of the genuine one, than usually guys do. I know someone who is running RS2 manifold from ebay.de, and we could not determine it is replica or not. Still no cracks from last summer.

              Regarding bolt pattern - I'm not sure how it should be. I think one bolt is offset on rs2 manifolds.

              Sau
              Last edited by kwlw; 3 November 2008, 14:01.
              200 20vt 88' 3b, human carrier
              CQ typ85 with AAN inside, see project blog at http://kwlw.blogspot.com

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                That's cheap enough, if it lasts a bit then all good. OE one new is £450+
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • K Simmonds
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7633
                  • Country: Wales

                  #9
                  I'm going to using a flexi joint at the bottom of the down pipe, so hopefully it should last OK. The seller swears that it's genuine and the casting looks very tidy, but for the price I can't be sure.
                  1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                  1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                  1994 MTM RS2.
                  1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                  2000 B5 TQS.

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                  • Rusty
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 18953
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Yeah, it is very cheap... unfortunately it would seem that only time will tell how good it is as in terms of pictures there isn't much to identify if it's fake or no.
                    Cheers'en, AndyC
                    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                    • UrS4boy
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kwlw
                      Copy for sure. I'm not big expert, however I have good memory for pictures. And those pictures does not match RS2 manifold by looks . Sau
                      Here is what a flock of real RS2 manifolds look like (nothing like one in the photos above - look at the casting texture and colour):



                      Photo is from a North American GB that we did (same time as the K24 1335 turbos)
                      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                      • Jonas_R
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3781
                        • Country: Denmark

                        #12
                        Damn that is a lot of RS2 manifolds
                        Does K24 1335 turbo's what is the output?
                        Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                        A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                        Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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                        • K Simmonds
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 7633
                          • Country: Wales

                          #13
                          Looks like a copy then, oh well lets hope it lasts OK.
                          1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                          1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                          1994 MTM RS2.
                          1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                          2000 B5 TQS.

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                          • twoqu
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 3103

                            #14
                            I remember someone in recent history who bought two supposed genuine RS2 manifolds. He discovered that they were not genuine and had to destroy them in order to get a refund through PP/credit card I believe. Perhaps they will chip in!
                            Never a good sign if someone has more than one of something!
                            I did start a thread warning about the copies last year. Should have extracted the info and got it made a sticky somewhere really! Obviously that wouldn't be foolproof as whoever manufacturers them would be devious enough to incorporate the "improvements".
                            Obviously a genuine one would command a higher price. I would say as long as you are made aware that it is not a genuine one you could bid accordingly. If it fits and does what you want then its just the initial dishonesty that hard to stomach.

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                            • K Simmonds
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 7633
                              • Country: Wales

                              #15
                              I'd paid for mine before the seller listed another one. The seller has been selling what looks like ex stock genuine VAG parts, mostly spark plugs. Mine came in a bag with a supposedly real VAG packing sticker attached and like I said before it is a tidy casting inside and out. But the finish is clearly different to ones having an orgy in the above photo, so I have to suspect that it's a copy all be it a good one. As long as it stay together I'll be happy.
                              1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                              1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                              1994 MTM RS2.
                              1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                              2000 B5 TQS.

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