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  • Knight Rider S4
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Mar 2005
    • 3541
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    Vr6 Maf

    Was wondering if there was any conclusion to the debate that was last had about VR6 MAF's ..good mod ?..and was the AFT affected by them?..I have bought 2 of them so intend to try one out on the avant and see if there is any difference

    Cheers

    Steve
    93 S2 Avant Parting
    91 URQ RR
    02 A4 tdi Avant
  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    What is the Bosch number on that one ?

    Only way to see if its comparable to S2 / RS2 MAF is to monitor its output voltage on a 2nd or 3rd gear pull - can be logged in VAGCOM if you like.
    Paul Nugent
    Webmaster http://S2central.net
    Administrator http://S2forum.com

    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

    There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I went out in an Avant car with the VR6 maf in it and I have to say it was really really smooth running off the stock map

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      • Aurélien
        S2Forum Buff
        • Mar 2009
        • 48
        • Country: France

        #4
        Paul , do you have the S2 maf output voltage VS flow curve ? Or some values ...

        I'm trying to find how ecu works with the maf ...

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #5
          Funny - no not yet... But by some fluke I have that planned for this weekend.

          I have a fresh RS2 MAF
          I also have my original S2 MAF
          And a spare S2 MAF
          And a faulty S2 MAF

          **** thats enough MAFs for me - I'm going to try and get a spread of the values... At idle and on 2nd or 3rd gear pulls. Figuring I can do this in VAGCOM - not ideal as the sample rate isn't great, but should be OK averaged out over a few repeatable runs.

          I'm wanting a USB ADC to do this more accurately - and size up differences with the hotfilm MAF when I get it.
          Paul Nugent
          Webmaster http://S2central.net
          Administrator http://S2forum.com

          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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          • Aurélien
            S2Forum Buff
            • Mar 2009
            • 48
            • Country: France

            #6
            Ok , please send me the curve when you have it ...

            I think that 1 sample each 0.1v will be ok ...

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            • Knight Rider S4
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Mar 2005
              • 3541
              • Country: Scotland

              #7
              Originally posted by S2central.net
              What is the Bosch number on that one ?

              Only way to see if its comparable to S2 / RS2 MAF is to monitor its output voltage on a 2nd or 3rd gear pull - can be logged in VAGCOM if you like.
              BOSCH Number i think 25/93 24 2 A or is it 0 280 213 021

              How do I do that on vag.com ...measuring blocks?


              Cheers

              Steve
              93 S2 Avant Parting
              91 URQ RR
              02 A4 tdi Avant

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              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #8
                Yes - measuring blocks - Group 0 - LOAD and RPM will do it.
                Paul Nugent
                Webmaster http://S2central.net
                Administrator http://S2forum.com

                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                • Knight Rider S4
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 3541
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #9
                  Cheers ....will do a run on both and see what the differences are
                  93 S2 Avant Parting
                  91 URQ RR
                  02 A4 tdi Avant

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                  • Knight Rider S4
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 3541
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    Well first chance I have had to run the VR6 maf ...what a difference!!...unbelievable ...really smooth have not had a chance to plug vag.com in but will do this week

                    Paul what was the output voltage on the S2 MAF?
                    93 S2 Avant Parting
                    91 URQ RR
                    02 A4 tdi Avant

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                    • Rusty
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 18953
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      I can't say I've ever thought that the stock car is rough
                      Cheers'en, AndyC
                      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        You'll notice the difference I was quite amazed at the smoothness of the K24 with the VR6 MAF granted I hadn't driven a stock car in ages but it was noticeable the difference.

                        Only thing I could think off was that it leaned out the rich stock ECU map. If it works with a homefries would be for someone to test.
                        Last edited by Jamo; 7 April 2009, 10:34.

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #13
                          I haven't got near the car to do anything meaningful in a while... Its resting the garage away from all the horrible wet stuff that falls from the sky on a daily basis - waiting on parts to fix my water leak then I can maybe get somewhere
                          Paul Nugent
                          Webmaster http://S2central.net
                          Administrator http://S2forum.com

                          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                          • quattrostyle
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 6229
                            • Country: Netherlands

                            #14
                            ain't it just the difference between a bit dirty stock MAF versus a new VR6 MAF? Or are both items new?

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                            • Rusty
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 18953
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Why bother with quattro for 'fair weather' driving :mischeif:

                              I've noticed that swapping from my OE UK MAF to my Slovenian special blend MAF makes a difference. Until it remaps for part load there will be a difference but at WOT I guess different MAFs make a difference.
                              Cheers'en, AndyC
                              1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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