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  • [RPM]
    S2Forum Addict
    • Dec 2009
    • 229
    • Home: Portugal Current: Ireland

    #1

    screamer pipe

    anybody using one?
    i think the downpipe flow will be better and we get the Group B sound
  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    It's very loud though, you need to put a silencer on it or you can't drive at night!

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    • [RPM]
      S2Forum Addict
      • Dec 2009
      • 229
      • Home: Portugal Current: Ireland

      #3
      but it will only be loud when you it the max boost and the waste gate opens right?
      most of the time will be closed
      in normal driving i never hit 1.4bar

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      • Bram
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Aug 2006
        • 2582
        • Country: Netherlands

        #4
        I had one on my Avant with a silencer from an Opel Corsa. It's not too loud, so if you can DO IT, since the sound is mental:

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        • [RPM]
          S2Forum Addict
          • Dec 2009
          • 229
          • Home: Portugal Current: Ireland

          #5

          any pics of screamer setup's?

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Originally posted by [RPM]
            but it will only be loud when you it the max boost and the waste gate opens right?
            most of the time will be closed
            in normal driving i never hit 1.4bar
            It will open anytime you boost over the spring pressure.

            If it's a stock spring then 0.4 bar

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            • Billman
              S2Forum Freak
              • Nov 2004
              • 4129

              #7
              Don't think so! It will open at 0.4 only if the n75 is disconnected. It will scream only when the ecu trust to controll boost.
              Go Holset or Go RS4

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              • HMS-S6
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jan 2010
                • 1164
                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                #8
                Originally posted by Billman
                Don't think so! It will open at 0.4 only if the n75 is disconnected. It will scream only when the ecu trust to controll boost.
                That was my understanding too. Although i don't see the point/advantage to having one to be honest . . . . . .

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                • Bram
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2582
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #9
                  Originally posted by [RPM]

                  any pics of screamer setup's?
                  Sure:

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Billman
                    Don't think so! It will open at 0.4 only if the n75 is disconnected. It will scream only when the ecu trust to controll boost.
                    The N75 stops the wastegate from opening when your under WOT - Wide Open Throttle only on the S2 stock ecu.

                    Not at WOT wastegate sees boost, this is why when you have a faulty N75 valve you don't get boost

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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Billman
                      Don't think so! It will open at 0.4 only if the n75 is disconnected. It will scream only when the ecu trust to controll boost.
                      I recommend looking at N75 signal with an oscilloscope before making such statements.
                      N75 is not "open" or "closed", it is always oscillating, even when it is below target, it is oscillating. Yes, the duty goes to 95%, but it still oscillates to be able to respond faster.

                      Originally posted by Jamo
                      The N75 stops the wastegate from opening when your under WOT - Wide Open Throttle only on the S2 stock ecu.

                      Not at WOT wastegate sees boost, this is why when you have a faulty N75 valve you don't get boost
                      Completely wrong as well, boost is mapped based on TPS value and RPM. Less TPS value - less boost requested. But this does not mean that you don't get above spring pressure on part throttle.
                      http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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                      • [RPM]
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Dec 2009
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                        • Home: Portugal Current: Ireland

                        #12
                        nice

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                        • Billman
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4129

                          #13
                          Originally posted by prj
                          I recommend looking at N75 signal with an oscilloscope before making such statements.
                          N75 is not "open" or "closed", it is always oscillating, even when it is below target, it is oscillating. Yes, the duty goes to 95%, but it still oscillates to be able to respond faster.
                          Oh yes, I am ordering one right now!!! Wait.... :-p

                          Dude, let the "how does Motronic work" manual and read carefully please. I said the wastegate opens not the n75.
                          Go Holset or Go RS4

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #14
                            The N75 valve is modulated by the ECU... in turn the wastegate valve is modulated - so sure its not a binary open/shut thing... I've been out in one S2 with an unsilenced screamer pipe and the sound is proper bonkers - very 'S1' like as this one had over 400bhp at the time. The scream pipe made all sorts of farty noises at part throttle of course - once boost starts to build you will hear it... doesn't develop into that lovely scream unless on full chat.
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                            • [RPM]
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 229
                              • Home: Portugal Current: Ireland

                              #15
                              Originally posted by S2central.net
                              The N75 valve is modulated by the ECU... in turn the wastegate valve is modulated - so sure its not a binary open/shut thing... I've been out in one S2 with an unsilenced screamer pipe and the sound is proper bonkers - very 'S1' like as this one had over 400bhp at the time. The scream pipe made all sorts of farty noises at part throttle of course - once boost starts to build you will hear it... doesn't develop into that lovely scream unless on full chat.
                              I've just wet myself

                              screamer pipe added to "the things to do " to my S2

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