Stock S2 Back Box what's inside (pic heavy)

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  • s2_wot
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Aug 2006
    • 2178

    #1

    Stock S2 Back Box what's inside (pic heavy)

    I decided to explore the internals of the s2 back box to educate myself. Audi had been making exhausts for turbo coupes for 15 odd years before they got to mine so it seemed like a good place to start.

    I wanted to see how it was constructed, was it chambered and did it look restrictive etc.

    On the ground and after 10-15 minutes with my weapon of choice:


    1st layer of steel removed:


    2nd layer of steel (stainless this time) removed:


    At 1st glimpse we have 2 chambers both packed with dense glass wool type material:










    As we get closer to the flow path of the exhaust gasses the material changes to a steel wool type material:


    Anywhere there are perforations the steel is wrapped in this type of fibre:


    1st Chamber revealed:


    2nd chamber all wrapped up, this is 2 individually wrapped perforated tubes:


    The chambers are seperated by a 5-10mm gap:




    Overview with most of the packing removed:


    Inlet Chamber close up:




    Outlet Chambers close up:




    Shane
  • Le S2 Audi
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Jul 2009
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    #2
    Very Interesting.... Never had one to bits before!!

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    • Sonic
      Administrator
      • Jul 2006
      • 5514
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #3
      Interesting stuff! Not sure i'd have been picking up that wool stuff with my delicate bare hands though
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      • Error404
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2007
        • 19789
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        interesting, thanks for sharing.. can see why they're so fooking expensive now!

        what is the function of the gap / divider between the first chanber and the outlet chmabers then?
        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
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        • s2_wot
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Aug 2006
          • 2178

          #5
          Originally posted by Error404
          interesting, thanks for sharing.. can see why they're so fooking expensive now!

          what is the function of the gap / divider between the first chanber and the outlet chmabers then?
          Here's my thoughts but would like much imput from others.

          Sound waves enter the 1st chamber where a quantity of them go through the perforations in the chamber as the gasses turn through 90 degrees. These waves bounce around in the sound absorbtion material to their hearts content but don't get to the 2nd chamber unless they go back into the path of the exhaust gasses.

          When the exhaust gasses pass into the 2nd chamber there's another opportunity for some sound waves to go through the perforations into more sound absorbing material.

          The idea with the 2 chambers is it prevents the sound waves from interfering with each other as they are being dampened.

          The really interesting thing for me is that it's not very restrictive, that'll be difficult to improve.

          Any ideas why there are way fewer perforations in chamber 1 vs chamber 2? That one has me a bit confused.
          Shane

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          • newsh
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Aug 2003
            • 16226
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Have a play with this

            Attached Files

            S2 Coupe 3B Project


            Ur quattro restoration

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            • david
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              • Oct 2008
              • 1268
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              #7
              [QUOTE=Error404;540189]interesting, thanks for sharing.. can see why they're so fooking expensive now!

              [SIGPIC][SIGPIC]/SIGPIC]92 3B pearl white=gone back home to Germany,probably in bits and pieces

              RS2 VOLCANO BLACK] soon to be broken to bits

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              • s2_wot
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Aug 2006
                • 2178

                #8
                Originally posted by newsh
                Have a play with this

                http://www.falstad.com/ripple/
                That's too much fun
                Shane

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                • newsh
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 16226
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Yep

                  S2 Coupe 3B Project


                  Ur quattro restoration

                  S2 Avant

                  Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                  • andy10v
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 5996
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
                    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                    Sold ABY-stock

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                    • pixsaudisex2
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 3110

                      #11
                      Cool..

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                      • martinws
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 917
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #12
                        interesting to see. Always thought of doing that. I hope that box did not contain asbestos.

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                        • s2_wot
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2178

                          #13
                          Originally posted by martinws
                          interesting to see. Always thought of doing that. I hope that box did not contain asbestos.
                          Ah I don't think so.

                          I'm going to make a 3.5" OEM+ for the craic in stainless but not double skinned. It has to flow better than any of the generic ones and be more effective.

                          @newsh, I'm addicted to that software, spent about 2 hours drawing it last night. Exactly how I'm going to form the box into a 3d parabolic curve I don't know
                          Shane

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                          • newsh
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 16226
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Its amazing how you see the cancellations happen when you change the shape and add holes etc. eh?

                            S2 Coupe 3B Project


                            Ur quattro restoration

                            S2 Avant

                            Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                            • s2_wot
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2178

                              #15
                              Click the import / export tab with that program open. Delete the stuff thats shown in the pop up window and then copy & paste the entire contents of this attached document. I think you have to press save / import. When you look at it in 3d it's amazing how much of the noise is cancelled out.

                              You probably knew that already...
                              Attached Files
                              Shane

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