Wagner upgrade

[Nathid]

Hi
Is there an increase in performance if changing the OE intercooler to the Wagner unit?Same question applies to the exhaust manifold.
Your insights would be appreciated.

[Rusty]

Not really necessary on a stock turbo but definitely worthwhile on a larger turbo

[Nathid]

Thanks bud. If I was to change / upgrade my stock Turbo, what are the options available? I know the question my sound odd, please bear with me..

[Jonas_R]

I would say RS2 turbo would be the easy upgrade.

[Nik0las]

myriad options everything is up to your budget and HP target you're after.....

[jaychen]

What is k26/k27 good for?

[orsum]

Hi,

SA is not the best place in the world to find upgrade stuff for the S2.

And the rand exchange is killing us.

I have been looking for quite some time and still no luck.

Your budget will be the issue.

Plenty of guys on this site have everything we need for a stock appearance RS2 plus type performance upgrade but it will run you about 75 to 100K then comes the 4 wheel dyno and who in SA is able to fine tune your motor.

Cars of 1990 to 1996 will also need the head gasket replace which means overhaul it while it’s off.

So be prepared to spend.

You can also do it cheaper but don’t be fooled by cheap copies.

The first thing you could do it a chip upgrade. Audi SA is offering this upgrade from there Motorsport division it is the MTM software.

The guys on this site will be able to offer opinions on which other software is available.

orsum

[Rocco]

430 hp

[GazzaG60]

the wagner stuff really come into its own on 400+ builds.

A good thing with the wagner is it fits well so not much fabrication at all. also its far easier to do jobs on the ca with the wagner inlet and tubular I used.
turbo wise you can pick many with wagner as you can cool it etc.

if your doing things id go wagner everything its that good. then I would pick and choose turbos as I see fit. id go with a t3 flanged exhaust rather than the ancient -kkk. more choice with better hotsides. or even better vband

[orsum]

If you are going to modify then I agree with GazzaG60 update were possible.

I was told that the the volvo upgrade turbo will give you just under the RS2 performance.

orsum

[Nathid]

Thanks guys, really appreciate the commentary and insight.
Orsum, you're correct - the ROE is a dampner at the moment, but when that improves, will possibly be looking into the IC and Manifold potentially.
I'll also consider having the current OE turbo serviced as well - to keep it in good shape.

Cheers

[orsum]

Nathid,

Drop me a line when you are buying we may be able to work a deal on transport etc.

orsum

[GazzaG60]

cant see the point in going rs2. its a small upgrade in performance for more money than a good garrett with another 100hp.

[jaychen]

cant see the point in going rs2. its a small upgrade in performance for more money than a good garrett with another 100hp.

wouldnt it be because pretty much all garretts require rods as a minimum ?

[GazzaG60]

depends on what you do. and how you do it.

rods are a smaller job than many think I feel. also if you spend a grand on a turbo, grand on injectors ecu,pump, couple of grand on wagner. that's about 4k for 100hp. another 500 quid and your gonna go up potentially 150hp or so more.

I bought when things were cheaper. I fitted the rods myself on skimmed pistons. 50 quid to skim them, 50 quid for weight matched rods, 180 quid for 5 scats. 100 or so on other bits and that's it.

depends really on how much you have to have done as paid jobs.

factor in a proper exhaust if its not aleady in. 3" turbo back minimum