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  • Doug_RS2
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Jul 2003
    • 3847
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    #1

    What Cone Air Filter

    I will probably be replacing my airbox with a cone.

    What have people fitted to their S2s? What size can you get in there?

    What diameter is the MAF inlet (80mm?) and how have cones been fitted?

    I remember looking into it a while ago and the ITG Foam filters looked good but there were reservations of the foam getting sucked in? Should I be putting my MAF screens back on??

    Cheers all
    S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8
  • audiman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Jul 2003
    • 4827
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I bought a big fat K&N cone filter supplied by dialynx. It has the 80mm dia. for the MAF it just is held on by a hose clip. Only thing is there is no heatsheilding supplied. You will have to make something up to do this job. Something i havent got round to doing yet.
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    • *ZenithalRavage*
      S2Forum Addict
      • Jul 2003
      • 216
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      Originally posted by audiman
      I bought a big fat K&N cone filter supplied by dialynx. It has the 80mm dia. for the MAF it just is held on by a hose clip. Only thing is there is no heatsheilding supplied. You will have to make something up to do this job. Something i havent got round to doing yet.
      Audiman, any idea what part number that cone has? I've been trying to find a kit for the S2 but there isn't a standard K&N cone kit for the S2 I think.
      Any help appreciated, I want a cone
      *ZR* S2 R.I.P.
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      • Ski
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jan 2004
        • 2591
        • Home: Poland Current: United Kingdom

        #4
        any idea's on a heat sheild? or do i goto go to my local tuner to get one made? (i dont ave a welder)
        ABY Coupe
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        • Rob W
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          • Jul 2003
          • 353
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          #5
          Hi Doug happy New Year,i fitted a K&N earlier last year,its was meant for use on 2.9 24v Cosworth(as used in a ford granada)
          Rob W
          04 Audi S4 Avant
          55 Merc 220cdi c class estate Family hack.
          92 Audi S2 3b Sadly gone.
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          • Doug_RS2
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            • Jul 2003
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            #6
            Hehe - this is an old post of mine! Rob - Happy New Year - Not heard from you in a while!

            I got the big ITG foam filter and I made a heatshield for it from the double skin aluminium from Merlin Motorsports - it's dead easy to make - just get some card and make a card shield, then use that as a template for the aluminium - it can be cut with scissors. I got an old boot seal form a golf to use on the top edge to seal it to the bonnet when closed.
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            • *ZenithalRavage*
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              • Jul 2003
              • 216
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              #7
              Originally posted by Rob W
              Hi Doug happy New Year,i fitted a K&N earlier last year,its was meant for use on 2.9 24v Cosworth(as used in a ford granada)
              Rob, is it the kit shown below? Was it a direct fit?
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              • Rob W
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                • Jul 2003
                • 353
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                #8
                Yeah thats the one,the cone fits on ok if i remember correctly 80mm is the MAF diameter,this cone was 79mm so it fitted nice and tight,even before a circlip.
                Rob W
                04 Audi S4 Avant
                55 Merc 220cdi c class estate Family hack.
                92 Audi S2 3b Sadly gone.
                1969 mustang fastback 302. Dry storage

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                • *ZenithalRavage*
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 216
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rob W
                  Yeah thats the one,the cone fits on ok if i remember correctly 80mm is the MAF diameter,this cone was 79mm so it fitted nice and tight,even before a circlip.
                  Ok thanx, I might go for it then
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                  • s2driveruk
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 12696
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    I have a cone (K&N) in mine, had it fitted for last couple of years without any hassle. Heat is a big problem and I made a cover for mine from a sheet of aluminum from B&Q (about £15 for a square metre). It works fine while you are moving fwds but if you are stationary for any length of time it heats up just like anything else.

                    Here's a picture....I retained the existing heat shield which was bolted onto the side of the airbox and made a snug cover with the ally and made a small kink so that the strut for the bonnet has a place to rest
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                    • DAVIDP20V
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 165

                      #11
                      This is the kit i am getting for my rs2

                      i tried a few filters on my car but i have decided to get this from
                      dahlback racing.

                      http://www.dahlbackracing.se


                      its about 150 quid but i think its worth it, looks like the tool for
                      the job
                      DAVIDP20V - 95' Polar Silver RS2 standard 315 bhp, forge diverter valve, Mark H mod and boost gauge..... and shes for sale.

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                      • s2carlo
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 252
                        • Country: Netherlands

                        #12
                        gain and loss balance

                        All the talk about cone filters has lightened the tuning fires again.

                        I own a 285Bhp 3B (tuned by Mihnea ) and I now have an open K&N-filter in the standard airbox, a difference to the original filter could not really be feld.ops:

                        What does a cone filter bring an S2, bhp or torque wise?

                        The heat seems to be a big problem. Iddle running for some time is a problem, does the car stall??
                        Has anyone found a GOOD heatpreventing solution, other then bringing the cone in the wheel arch??
                        No power, no glory!
                        S4 Avant, 2003, K&N-filter, 18", RNS-E, enough audio

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                        • *ZenithalRavage*
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                          • Jul 2003
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                          #13
                          Re: gain and loss balance

                          Originally posted by s2carlo
                          Has anyone found a GOOD heatpreventing solution, other then bringing the cone in the wheel arch??
                          oh is that where it sometimes goes?
                          Yes ideally I would actually like the end element to be somewhere other than the engine bay....
                          is it possible to get it all the way to just behind the (right) rs2 grill? If so, would it give the intake a too long path? R u guys gettin' me
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                          • Vagsport
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 533
                            • Country: United States

                            #14
                            It depends... Why do you want a cone filter anyway, as opposed to a decent performance panel filter in the original airbox anyway? Surely by having a cone AND boxing it off, you are literally reverting back to the original set up? Apart from the noise, of course? :confused:

                            Siena

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                            • dan_b
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Sep 2003
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                              #15
                              Re: What Cone Air Filter

                              Originally posted by Doug_RS2
                              Should I be putting my MAF screens back on??
                              Doug, I just noticed this bit in your opening post - did removing the MAF screens completely have any noticable effects, either good or bad, on the car's performance?

                              Was there a problem that you were trying to fix when you did this?

                              Also, why is a cone filter better in theory to a better panel filter in the original airbox? Is the air intake a major source of restriction in the S2's power potential?
                              Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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