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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #16
    mmmmm.... Hows about unscrewing two of the cell caps and using a 2-legged puller (taped up to prevent any risk of touching battery plates) to use as a kind of makeshift handle to lift the booger out ?
    Paul Nugent
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    • ericd
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Nov 2003
      • 1240
      • Country: Scotland

      #17
      Originally posted by S2central.net
      mmmmm.... Hows about unscrewing two of the cell caps and using a 2-legged puller (taped up to prevent any risk of touching battery plates) to use as a kind of makeshift handle to lift the booger out ?
      yeah thought about supergluing a handle to it, just don't understand why its so tight for space and problematic, thought it was just me, but jason said it was a right pain when he tried getting his original battery out, just worried I'd missed something stupid, also worried now hoe I'm gonna get the new one in

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      • Fat Audi 80
        Super Moderator
        • Jan 2004
        • 10547
        • Country: England

        #18
        New ones come with handles...

        I have changed the battery and it was easy, but I think someone had already done the hard work as mine had a handle to take it out.

        Best of luck Eric.

        Cheers,

        Steve
        Last edited by Fat Audi 80; 8 December 2008, 16:53.
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        • ericd
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Nov 2003
          • 1240
          • Country: Scotland

          #19
          still looking for clarification if the lower bracket with -ve cable needs to be moved/pushed etc,etc.

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          • ericd
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Nov 2003
            • 1240
            • Country: Scotland

            #20
            just as an update, thing have got a tad worse, put it altogether after giving up on trying to get battery out yesterday,

            key fob doesn't work, get beep from horn when activating c/locking with key in door but fob does nothing (original dealer upgrade alarm)

            car won't start, turns over great, used vagcom to try and find out what problem is but can't talk to engine ecu , can talk to everything else though

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #21
              Yikes... I'd be surprised if a bit of terminal jiggling has killed a good ECU like Bosch, but have you checked dopey things like fuses - ALL the ECU fuses ?

              If thats not the problem then I can check over your ECU if you like - fixed a few in the past with things like zapped protection diodes.

              Only other suggestion is IMMO related on a late car like yours, but the normal behaviour there with an unhappy IMMO is the car starts, runs for a second or two then dies...

              Maybe the dealer fitted alarm is the culprit if it needs reset in some way after the battery was off - so as to relearn the keyfob for one thing - maybe the engine is immobilised by that alarm too - by means of a power feed, primary sensor or fuel pump ????
              Paul Nugent
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              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #22
                Afterthought - If its not talking to the ECU then it suggests the alarm might have one of the power rails wired thru it and you need to reset the alarm before that connection is made...
                Paul Nugent
                Webmaster http://S2central.net
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                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                • ericd
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 1240
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #23
                  I'm in the middle of recharging the old battery (it's on its way out), just remind me of all the ecu fuses I should be checking , the 2 motor fuses etc,etc. 9problem might be me !)

                  There's a few posts (including one from Ben) about reprogramming the fob , I've already tried what the alarm manual says but it didn't work , I've also noticed some other strange electrical behaviour relating to the digital clock and a few other things which I'll detail once I get it sorted.

                  Car's obviously not happy giving up its "heart" after 14 years..

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #24
                    All ABY fuses listed on s2central.net in the tech section but from memory its the two MOTOR fuses which provide juice into the ECU itself... I'll check the schematic here.
                    Paul Nugent
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                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                    • S2central.net
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 16590
                      • Country: Northern Ireland

                      #25
                      In no particular order

                      S13 - fuel pump
                      S21 - OBD (black plug carries 12V)
                      S24 - WGFV, ISV, EVAP, Afterrun controller
                      S25 - lambda heater
                      S27 - ECU unswitched 12V feed - appears at pin 18 on red/white wire
                      S32 - Coilpack power feed and switched 12V into ECU - appears at pin 27 on a black wire
                      S28 - fuel injectors and MAF
                      Paul Nugent
                      Webmaster http://S2central.net
                      Administrator http://S2forum.com

                      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                      • ericd
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 1240
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #26
                        cheers Paul, both motor fuses look ok, diagnostic fuse is working as i can talk to other systems like abs, must be alarm/immob, tried most things to reset it (dealer fitted upgrade, 2 button + slider , with 3 pin side socket in fob), but if any body has any sequence to try I'll gladly try it), central locking works with key and you get the single horn blast

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #27
                          See if you can get to the ECU connector and verify presence of 12V at pin 18 (always) and 12V at pin 27 (key on)...

                          You might even see evidence in the loom near the ECU of some aftermarket wiring - that would be easiest place for an installer to get at - even though there are tidier places elsewhere which would have taken longer.
                          Paul Nugent
                          Webmaster http://S2central.net
                          Administrator http://S2forum.com

                          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #28
                            If the ECU is getting power then you'll need to see if it enables the fuel pump when you start cranking - but we'll get to that when you are ready ! Hope its just something silly like alarm/immo - you might need to contact the vendor for other suggestions on resetting it.
                            Paul Nugent
                            Webmaster http://S2central.net
                            Administrator http://S2forum.com

                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                            • ericd
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 1240
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #29
                              got it going again (had previously checked every fuse and they were ok), only thing I remember doing different was removing the two motor fuses before disconnecting and ultimately reconnecting the battery. i.e. last time I did it I left the motor fuses in place before disconnecting the battery , n.b. (also therefore didn't lift the bonnet twice, one when removing and once when replacing the fuses with battery connected), can you tell I used to be in diagnostics , I'll have to go and write down a wee parse tree to calm down...

                              Oh nearly forgot still to get battery oot

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                              • k.alle
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 801
                                • Country: Sweden

                                #30
                                Get a strap like one of these if the battery is giving you a hard time:



                                They work excellent, costs ~£1 here in Sweden.
                                Audi S2 -1994 | 480 Hp 650 Nm | FlexFuel | MaxxECU | 3" Stainless | Porsche GT3 Front Brakes
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