Replacement speakers: what do people recommend?

[Jonas_R]

HPmuirt:
Why dont you want to run an Amp? I mean they dont have to be that big, audison makes some very small and compact amps. They are perfect for the job of running the rear speakers, the dashboard speakers and tweeters.

/Jonas R.

[HPmuirt]

I too am after changing my speakers and this is what I have learned so far......

- Coupes have 2 front 4" speakers and 4 at the rear (2x5.25" in the side panels and 2 tweeters)
- The rear speakers come in 2 flavours - amped or non-amped.
- The amped rear speakers are connected via a red plug to the stereo, whereas the non-amped are connected via the same brown plug as the fronts.
- If your car cam with a gamma CC radio/cassette, then it is likely that you will have amped rear speakers as only the front output from the OEM unit is amplified. If however you have a car supplied with a dealer fitted stereo, then you will pobably have non-amped rear speakers.

I plan to fit MB Quart 4" in the front as direct replacements, however I had initially planned to stick with the OEM rears. Trouble is, mine are non-amped and I want to run the stock head unit. before you ask, I have no plans to fit an amp, infact I gave my Alpine amp away. I therefore need to sourse a set of amped rear speakers, so my questions are: -

1. Does the Avant use identical amped and non-amped rear speakers? If so, I assume that an Avant with a stock head unit must have amped rears?

2. If I fit amped rears and then change my head unit to one with and amplified rear output, I assume that this will not cause an issue with having amped rears installed?

3. If I upgrade the rears to the MB Quart 5.25", will the tweeter component fit in the coupe tweer hole or is it better to use a bridge component or coaxial and simply remove the OEM tweeter?

Cheers n

Si

[Ski]

Wow nice feedback guys

Well you see I got 2 large speakers on the back shelf and a tube in the boot, both powered by 2 different amps, all else is stock. The amps are connected by an cables, linked so to say? So one of them will have an High pass filter Im sure.

Kenwood (food mixer ) 1060's Here:

http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/speakers01/kfc1060s.asp

Steve

So is this the best bet? Need more from the front to keep up with the back.

Originally Posted by 4WheelDrifter
I used to stick a couple of capacitors across the speaker terminals as passive crossovers, to filter out the low frequencies.

OOO sounds tricky and interesting, tell me more

[ctolladay]

Top tip from this forum is REMOVE the original speaker grills, you will be amazed at the results. If you are bothered by leaving you rspeakers on show make some grills from MDF and speaker fabric.

[Jamo]

I used to stick a couple of capacitors across the speaker terminals as passive crossovers, to filter out the low frequencies.
It's a cheap way to get more out of speakers connected to the head unit.
You can then turn the volume up more, without the speakers "farting". Although you need larger speakers somewhere else to cover the low frequencies.

So 80's!

If your amping the speakers then even the cheapest of cheap amp will have a High Pass Filter.

For the 4" fronts i'd say 200 Hz highpass or no lower than 125 Hz

[4WheelDrifter]

I used to stick a couple of capacitors across the speaker terminals as passive crossovers, to filter out the low frequencies.
It's a cheap way to get more out of speakers connected to the head unit.
You can then turn the volume up more, without the speakers "farting". Although you need larger speakers somewhere else to cover the low frequencies.

[Fat Audi 80]

Kenwood (food mixer ) 1060's Here:

http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/speakers01/kfc1060s.asp

5p within budget too!

Plug and play... (Will sound best crossed over and through an amp...)

To connect to the amp you need to run the cable (obviously) then you should (if your amp is decent have at least a HP (high pass) and LP (low pass) filter on the seperate channels. You need to choose High pass as this will only allow the upper frequency range to be sent to your front speakers. They will then no "Fart" when trying to play low frequencies that they are not good at...

Take a photo of the settings on your amp and we can help!


Cheers,

Steve

[Jamo]

The 108 is 3.5" inches in size ( the one i used) the 110 is the one to use as it's 4"

Be careful of the magnet size on any new 4" speaker as it may be too big to fit without modification to the hole.

[Ski]

Hi All!!

Its that time of the year again, time to upgrade ICE. I must point out Ive no idea on watt's volts or MHz's. All i know is you plug a speaker into the headunit or amp and it makes a lot of noise

Im trying to figure out how to upgrade the front speakers, and noticed there were two models recommended by the forum which are MB Quartz (DKC108 / 110). However, the famous ebay'er isnt selling them any more, and cant find any for sale in the UK ?! Have they been replaced by a newer model or something? cant find any place that sells them :/

I dont really want to spend more than £30 on the set, any others that can be recommeded?

ALSO, whats the best method of hooking these up? direct to the headunit or through the amp in the boot? and why. Also there has been talk of crossovers (no idea what they are, jamo explained it to me once but it confused me more (dosnt take much)), do I need them?

I found some cheap 4" in haulfrauds Linky which would be the easy option as I can fit them today!! But no idea if they are any good?!

Any help is appreciated, I'd love to find the MB Quartz option!

[curlyks2]

Thanks for all the help and suggestions folks.

The front speakers are now MB Quart RKC 110's (the ones which are effectively components where the tweeter sits on a bridge over the main cone).

I hadn't realised how bad the stock ones were getting!

Ck.

[Jamo]

P.S. My front speakers are crossover with a high pass in the Amp at 100 - 120 Hz to improve sound quality. It really does help if you can use the small front speakers as mid range....

I use all my mids (51/4 and 61/2) in 125 range with a 12 slope down to around 100 hz.

[Fat Audi 80]

P.S. My front speakers are crossover with a high pass in the Amp at 100 - 120 Hz to improve sound quality. It really does help if you can use the small front speakers as mid range....

[Jamo]

DLS is a quality speaker, although i dont like the frequency range on the woofer.

No way can a 4" speaker handle 65 hz long term.

[Tommy200rs]

Hi,
I ended up into these alternatives:
DLS 224

http://www.dls.se/english/speakers/224.htm

or
DLS R4

http://www.dls.se/english/speakers/r4.htm

[BRY]

JBL GTO-505CE 5 1/4
Are these any good for the rear of the Avant?