Replacement speakers: what do people recommend?

[veneto rs2]

Hi all

After i had being into car stereos competitions for years...
(had a Monolithic Amp and AD speakers with custom crossovers plus 5 yes Five Sony 10 Cds changers (well now we have mp3!) in the recess behind the rear bumper on my ex S2 coupè)
I decide to go easy on the RS2 Sony radio no amps 1 CD changer 6 discs AD Audio Development speakers still with custom crossovers thoug...
I had a 10cm diameter coaxial on the front
16 cm woofers on the front doors (they fit easy on the original door trim)
13 cm and separate tweeter on the back
All of them from their "MM" Range

All of them

if you are interested the owner of the Audio Development Company his my best friend and i can get very very good discounts

This is the Company

http://www.audiodevelopment.it/index.html

Stefano

[Greg_S]

Be interested to see how you get on with this one.

[Graham]

Managed to find some pics of the rear speakers.

http://www.s2forum.com/forum/attachm...ttachmentid=15 mounts

http://www.s2forum.com/forum/attachm...ttachmentid=16 new and old

I have resurrected an old thread, i am going to replace the rear speakers and used Gregs pictures to give me the idea of using the plate on the door card as a mount for NUTSERTS. The nutserts are very strong as i have used them to repair the bolt holes where the wheel arch liners mount onto the outer wing. (Audi used these originally). I have got the thin sheet nutsert kit from M4 to M8 and want to know how much space is behind the panel for the depth of the speaker. Does anyone have a photo of the rear quater with the trim removed and a measurement to give an indication of how deep a speaker can go. Its time to bin the old farts out of the back panels.

[Greg_S]

Cheers for that Nick, handy to know its 45mm. Im still planning to make some front door builds since the uprated 4" speakers dont give any bass just mid top

[NickVyse]

sorry - being the annoying newbie not bothering to search. Grill prises off, one screw later etc, etc. BTW depth of standard Nokia speaker is roughly 45mm from mounting surface.

[NickVyse]

MB Quartz

I've just bought an RS2 and the first thing I'm doing is getting some decent sounds put in. I'm looking at MB Quartz, but as someone else noted, the model numbers have moved on from the ones discussed here.

In the reference range there is an RVF210 that is 45.5mm deep and a shallow mount RUF210 at 32.25mm deep. Anybody know off hand the maximum depth the dash will take without messing about?

I could always just go an whip out my original speakers - which leads me to my next question, do you have to contort on your back with a screw driver, or do the grills prise off from the top?

Thanks - and great site BTW.

Nick

[fzr phil]

got a pic?

I'm still deciding about rear speaker options

thanks

Phil

[s2 rich]

i run infinity 6x9s and infinity door speskers easy to fit and great quality

[fzr phil]

well,
thanks for tips and advice.

i have replaced the front 4" with some from mac audio http://www.mac-audio.de/index.asp?lang=EN, mac iron 10.2. they were ~£40 from my semi-local car audio place 'pulse car audio' at hadleigh. looked at a few inc' the kenwood. these have a full dome tweeter and stuff
same as:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAC-AUDIO-MAC-...QQcmdZViewItem

Am quite impressed even off the head unit. the old l/h one was shot, torn practically all the way round. they did go in but had to remove all but one lug. the supplied grill is just to big to fit in the regular recess. (will look into that!).

definately shows up the rears though. they are not blown but the sound quality is markedly lower. will be happy to consider the same range of speaker. 51/4" was not a stock item.
we talked about amps as well. they have one on special for ~£100 which he feels is suitable from http://www.magnat.de/index.asp magnat 'rock 6000'
same as:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...9320&rd=1&rd=1

he reckons they will go like hot cakes!
well will have to consider where it would go!
re. subs, advice is get the amp sorted then think about which, i.e try first and see what works best.
guy was very helpful and patient, me being a noob and all!

so, whats this about central locking remote then?

regards

Phil

[Fat Audi 80]

Simon,

IMO I would not bother "amping" the rear speakers. You ideally want most of the sound from the front anyway to create a "Sound stage" on the dashboard. If the rear speakers are too loud you will spoil the "staging". I have standard rear speakers in my car running off the head unit and the sub and fronts amped up.

That said I have never seen the so called Amped rear speakers so cannot actually comment on the difference between these and the standard rear speakers.

If you are not that bothered about volume and getting all technical, (as Ross rightly states and Amp WILL make the stereo SOUND much better even if you are not interested in volume) then I would but a good quality head unit and the MB quarts and leave the rears alone....

HTH

Cheers,

Fatty

[Ross]

Just to mention, that ampliers aren't all about power/volume. It's more about quality, lack of distortion, and control. I'm a bit of an audiophile myself (though my system is neglected atm due to the S2 taking priority!) and you'll be amazed at how a quality (not neccesarily powerful) amp will transform the sound, especially at lower volumes, and tighten up bass response...

Also to mention, since aquiring the Avant, I@m interested to see what else comes from this thread as I would like to put a modest but discreet system in the car later this year

[HPmuirt]

Come on guys, there must be some knowledge out there to help curlyks2, fzr phil and I

Cheers n

Si

[fzr phil]

(orig. posted on audifans)

Hi
i have a new panasonic headunit, same as:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PANASONIC-CQ-C...QQcmdZViewItem
(but bought at a local car hifi place).

desperately need to upgrade my speakers. from reading here and s2forum, i like the idea of the MB quart, but which ones should i get?

also on ebay (search 'MB QUART') are:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MB-QUART-DKC-1...QQcmdZViewItem
and:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MB-QUART-DSC-2...QQcmdZViewItem

are they worth considering as a direct fit upgrade?
should i consider the tweeter too?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-MB-QUART-Q...QQcmdZViewItem


i'm assured that my headunit is reasonable enough and has dual pre outs if/ when i amp up + sub

don't really need a top notch boom machine just half-decent.

thanks in advance for any help / advice,

Phil

[HPmuirt]

HPmuirt:
Why dont you want to run an Amp? I mean they dont have to be that big, audison makes some very small and compact amps. They are perfect for the job of running the rear speakers, the dashboard speakers and tweeters.

/Jonas R.

I just cannot be bothered mounting/hiding/wiring it. I don't need any extra power (my 3 year old complains if he cannot be heard over the music) so just want to change the speakers for better quality in the front and just want to get the rears running.

Another question - does anyone have a picture of the amped and non-amped rears, preferrably side by side, so I can learn how to tell them apart?

Cheers n

Si

[4WheelDrifter]

So 80's!

I did say "Used to".
Anyway, that was in the early '90s, but you know how technology takes a while to reach us down here.