Replacement speakers: what do people recommend?

[4WheelDrifter]

I used to stick a couple of capacitors across the speaker terminals as passive crossovers, to filter out the low frequencies.
It's a cheap way to get more out of speakers connected to the head unit.
You can then turn the volume up more, without the speakers "farting". Although you need larger speakers somewhere else to cover the low frequencies.

[Jamo]

I used to stick a couple of capacitors across the speaker terminals as passive crossovers, to filter out the low frequencies.
It's a cheap way to get more out of speakers connected to the head unit.
You can then turn the volume up more, without the speakers "farting". Although you need larger speakers somewhere else to cover the low frequencies.

So 80's!

If your amping the speakers then even the cheapest of cheap amp will have a High Pass Filter.

For the 4" fronts i'd say 200 Hz highpass or no lower than 125 Hz

[ctolladay]

Top tip from this forum is REMOVE the original speaker grills, you will be amazed at the results. If you are bothered by leaving you rspeakers on show make some grills from MDF and speaker fabric.

[Ski]

Wow nice feedback guys

Well you see I got 2 large speakers on the back shelf and a tube in the boot, both powered by 2 different amps, all else is stock. The amps are connected by an cables, linked so to say? So one of them will have an High pass filter Im sure.

Kenwood (food mixer ) 1060's Here:

http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/speakers01/kfc1060s.asp

Steve

So is this the best bet? Need more from the front to keep up with the back.

Originally Posted by 4WheelDrifter
I used to stick a couple of capacitors across the speaker terminals as passive crossovers, to filter out the low frequencies.

OOO sounds tricky and interesting, tell me more

[HPmuirt]

I too am after changing my speakers and this is what I have learned so far......

- Coupes have 2 front 4" speakers and 4 at the rear (2x5.25" in the side panels and 2 tweeters)
- The rear speakers come in 2 flavours - amped or non-amped.
- The amped rear speakers are connected via a red plug to the stereo, whereas the non-amped are connected via the same brown plug as the fronts.
- If your car cam with a gamma CC radio/cassette, then it is likely that you will have amped rear speakers as only the front output from the OEM unit is amplified. If however you have a car supplied with a dealer fitted stereo, then you will pobably have non-amped rear speakers.

I plan to fit MB Quart 4" in the front as direct replacements, however I had initially planned to stick with the OEM rears. Trouble is, mine are non-amped and I want to run the stock head unit. before you ask, I have no plans to fit an amp, infact I gave my Alpine amp away. I therefore need to sourse a set of amped rear speakers, so my questions are: -

1. Does the Avant use identical amped and non-amped rear speakers? If so, I assume that an Avant with a stock head unit must have amped rears?

2. If I fit amped rears and then change my head unit to one with and amplified rear output, I assume that this will not cause an issue with having amped rears installed?

3. If I upgrade the rears to the MB Quart 5.25", will the tweeter component fit in the coupe tweer hole or is it better to use a bridge component or coaxial and simply remove the OEM tweeter?

Cheers n

Si

[Jonas_R]

HPmuirt:
Why dont you want to run an Amp? I mean they dont have to be that big, audison makes some very small and compact amps. They are perfect for the job of running the rear speakers, the dashboard speakers and tweeters.

/Jonas R.

[4WheelDrifter]

So 80's!

I did say "Used to".
Anyway, that was in the early '90s, but you know how technology takes a while to reach us down here.

[HPmuirt]

HPmuirt:
Why dont you want to run an Amp? I mean they dont have to be that big, audison makes some very small and compact amps. They are perfect for the job of running the rear speakers, the dashboard speakers and tweeters.

/Jonas R.

I just cannot be bothered mounting/hiding/wiring it. I don't need any extra power (my 3 year old complains if he cannot be heard over the music) so just want to change the speakers for better quality in the front and just want to get the rears running.

Another question - does anyone have a picture of the amped and non-amped rears, preferrably side by side, so I can learn how to tell them apart?

Cheers n

Si

[fzr phil]

(orig. posted on audifans)

Hi
i have a new panasonic headunit, same as:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PANASONIC-CQ-C...QQcmdZViewItem
(but bought at a local car hifi place).

desperately need to upgrade my speakers. from reading here and s2forum, i like the idea of the MB quart, but which ones should i get?

also on ebay (search 'MB QUART') are:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MB-QUART-DKC-1...QQcmdZViewItem
and:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MB-QUART-DSC-2...QQcmdZViewItem

are they worth considering as a direct fit upgrade?
should i consider the tweeter too?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-MB-QUART-Q...QQcmdZViewItem


i'm assured that my headunit is reasonable enough and has dual pre outs if/ when i amp up + sub

don't really need a top notch boom machine just half-decent.

thanks in advance for any help / advice,

Phil

[HPmuirt]

Come on guys, there must be some knowledge out there to help curlyks2, fzr phil and I

Cheers n

Si

[Ross]

Just to mention, that ampliers aren't all about power/volume. It's more about quality, lack of distortion, and control. I'm a bit of an audiophile myself (though my system is neglected atm due to the S2 taking priority!) and you'll be amazed at how a quality (not neccesarily powerful) amp will transform the sound, especially at lower volumes, and tighten up bass response...

Also to mention, since aquiring the Avant, I@m interested to see what else comes from this thread as I would like to put a modest but discreet system in the car later this year

[Fat Audi 80]

Simon,

IMO I would not bother "amping" the rear speakers. You ideally want most of the sound from the front anyway to create a "Sound stage" on the dashboard. If the rear speakers are too loud you will spoil the "staging". I have standard rear speakers in my car running off the head unit and the sub and fronts amped up.

That said I have never seen the so called Amped rear speakers so cannot actually comment on the difference between these and the standard rear speakers.

If you are not that bothered about volume and getting all technical, (as Ross rightly states and Amp WILL make the stereo SOUND much better even if you are not interested in volume) then I would but a good quality head unit and the MB quarts and leave the rears alone....

HTH

Cheers,

Fatty

[fzr phil]

well,
thanks for tips and advice.

i have replaced the front 4" with some from mac audio http://www.mac-audio.de/index.asp?lang=EN, mac iron 10.2. they were ~£40 from my semi-local car audio place 'pulse car audio' at hadleigh. looked at a few inc' the kenwood. these have a full dome tweeter and stuff
same as:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAC-AUDIO-MAC-...QQcmdZViewItem

Am quite impressed even off the head unit. the old l/h one was shot, torn practically all the way round. they did go in but had to remove all but one lug. the supplied grill is just to big to fit in the regular recess. (will look into that!).

definately shows up the rears though. they are not blown but the sound quality is markedly lower. will be happy to consider the same range of speaker. 51/4" was not a stock item.
we talked about amps as well. they have one on special for ~£100 which he feels is suitable from http://www.magnat.de/index.asp magnat 'rock 6000'
same as:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...9320&rd=1&rd=1

he reckons they will go like hot cakes!
well will have to consider where it would go!
re. subs, advice is get the amp sorted then think about which, i.e try first and see what works best.
guy was very helpful and patient, me being a noob and all!

so, whats this about central locking remote then?

regards

Phil

[s2 rich]

i run infinity 6x9s and infinity door speskers easy to fit and great quality

[fzr phil]

got a pic?

I'm still deciding about rear speaker options

thanks

Phil