Replacement speakers: what do people recommend?

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  • Greg_S
    Administrator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12431
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Managed to find some pics of the rear speakers.

    http://www.s2forum.com/forum/attachm...ttachmentid=15 mounts

    http://www.s2forum.com/forum/attachm...ttachmentid=16 new and old
    Greg

    S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

    '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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    • curlyks2
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Feb 2004
      • 1069
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Thanks!

      On that basis I may not bother with the backs as it looks like time to take all the panels out. I can always change the front/rear bias from the head unit!

      This of course is where I find that it's actually the rears that are more blown that the fronts... although they're all now showing their age. Maybe I should just listen to more soothing music instead.

      Cheers

      Ck.
      Shocked, exhausted, hosed, bushed, dumped, chipped, mounted, filtered, gauged, packed, intermittantly wiped and braked. I mean broken. Now, about the car...

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      • curlyks2
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Feb 2004
        • 1069
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        What do I need to unscrew/remove/etc to get to the rear speakers? (Both the ones by the rear seats and the ones up behind.)

        Cheers,

        Ck.
        Shocked, exhausted, hosed, bushed, dumped, chipped, mounted, filtered, gauged, packed, intermittantly wiped and braked. I mean broken. Now, about the car...

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        • Greg_S
          Administrator
          • Jul 2003
          • 12431
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Take the rear seat base out, 2 screws at front and lift out.

          Lower back seats down and use a 17mm and an allen key to take the securing parts for the rear seats out.

          Lift the two rear seat bolsters out.

          unscrew the sill trim around the door pillar and remove screw from door pillar (cant remember if is on that or door so might not need to)

          Lift the plastic guide out for the seatbelt and use a stubby posidrive to remove the screw from under neath.

          remove the screw from where the seat bolsters covered which holds the plastic tweeter panel to the rear panel.

          Remove 3 screws which secure the parcel shelf supports and remove parcel shelf.

          the tweeter panels will lift out and slide along seat belt. The rear panels lift out of their locating lugs.

          this is a good time to fit remote central locking (The OE kit) since it plugs in behind one of these panels.

          HTH
          Greg

          S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

          '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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          • curlyks2
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Feb 2004
            • 1069
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Thank you!

            Not quite as straightforward as I was hoping, but not impossible either.

            Do you remember what size of speaker fits in the backs? The consensus is that 10cm (4 inch) fits the front nicely, but no size(s) have been suggested for the rears (yet)! I guess it's a 1 inch tweeter - not sure about the pair by the rear seats though.

            Popped into one of my local car audio "specialists" earlier. They launched straight into the "you need 6x9's in the parcel shelf driven by a separate amplifier, and you might as well disconnect the standard rears, and we can do it for you for about £700". Yeah right.

            Ck.
            Shocked, exhausted, hosed, bushed, dumped, chipped, mounted, filtered, gauged, packed, intermittantly wiped and braked. I mean broken. Now, about the car...

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            • Fat Audi 80
              Super Moderator
              • Jan 2004
              • 10547
              • Country: England

              #21
              I am still running the standard rear speakers in mine but with the rest of the kit upgraded and provided you bias the sounds to the front it sounds great. ( I am running my front kenwood speakers and tweeters from my amp as well as a sub off the amp. I am very pleased with the set up and it gets some good comments too...)

              So unless you have blown the rear speakers I would leave them be and bias the stereo towards the front. (you WILL need a sub though for bass)

              Cheers,

              Steve.
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              • BRY
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Nov 2004
                • 3755
                • Home: United Nations Current: Vietnam

                #22
                JBL GTO-505CE 5 1/4
                Are these any good for the rear of the Avant?
                Kingdoms are run by Kings, Dictatorships are run by Dictators.
                England must be a Country. :mischeif:

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                • Tommy200rs
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 285
                  • Country: Finland

                  #23
                  Hi,
                  I ended up into these alternatives:
                  DLS 224

                  or
                  DLS R4

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    DLS is a quality speaker, although i dont like the frequency range on the woofer.

                    No way can a 4" speaker handle 65 hz long term.

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                    • Fat Audi 80
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10547
                      • Country: England

                      #25
                      P.S. My front speakers are crossover with a high pass in the Amp at 100 - 120 Hz to improve sound quality. It really does help if you can use the small front speakers as mid range....
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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                        P.S. My front speakers are crossover with a high pass in the Amp at 100 - 120 Hz to improve sound quality. It really does help if you can use the small front speakers as mid range....
                        I use all my mids (51/4 and 61/2) in 125 range with a 12 slope down to around 100 hz.

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                        • curlyks2
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 1069
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Thanks for all the help and suggestions folks.

                          The front speakers are now MB Quart RKC 110's (the ones which are effectively components where the tweeter sits on a bridge over the main cone).

                          I hadn't realised how bad the stock ones were getting!

                          Ck.
                          Shocked, exhausted, hosed, bushed, dumped, chipped, mounted, filtered, gauged, packed, intermittantly wiped and braked. I mean broken. Now, about the car...

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                          • Ski
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2591
                            • Home: Poland Current: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Hi All!!

                            Its that time of the year again, time to upgrade ICE. I must point out Ive no idea on watt's volts or MHz's. All i know is you plug a speaker into the headunit or amp and it makes a lot of noise

                            Im trying to figure out how to upgrade the front speakers, and noticed there were two models recommended by the forum which are MB Quartz (DKC108 / 110). However, the famous ebay'er isnt selling them any more, and cant find any for sale in the UK ?! Have they been replaced by a newer model or something? cant find any place that sells them :/

                            I dont really want to spend more than £30 on the set, any others that can be recommeded?

                            ALSO, whats the best method of hooking these up? direct to the headunit or through the amp in the boot? and why. Also there has been talk of crossovers (no idea what they are, jamo explained it to me once but it confused me more (dosnt take much)), do I need them?

                            I found some cheap 4" in haulfrauds Linky which would be the easy option as I can fit them today!! But no idea if they are any good?!

                            Any help is appreciated, I'd love to find the MB Quartz option!
                            ABY Coupe
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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              The 108 is 3.5" inches in size ( the one i used) the 110 is the one to use as it's 4"

                              Be careful of the magnet size on any new 4" speaker as it may be too big to fit without modification to the hole.

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                              • Fat Audi 80
                                Super Moderator
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 10547
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                Kenwood (food mixer ) 1060's Here:



                                5p within budget too!

                                Plug and play... (Will sound best crossed over and through an amp...)

                                To connect to the amp you need to run the cable (obviously) then you should (if your amp is decent have at least a HP (high pass) and LP (low pass) filter on the seperate channels. You need to choose High pass as this will only allow the upper frequency range to be sent to your front speakers. They will then no "Fart" when trying to play low frequencies that they are not good at...

                                Take a photo of the settings on your amp and we can help!


                                Cheers,

                                Steve
                                The Perfectionist
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