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  • sal_s2
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1287
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Originally posted by MattS2avant
    just had a 4wheel alignment done on mine a 4 wheel aligns the front and rear wheels for castor, camber and toe it sets the steering wheel straight and sets the centre andle of the steering

    hope this helps
    Matt, where did you have yours done? I'm not far from you and would like to be able to get mine done locally.
    Thanks

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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Originally posted by MattS2avant
      just had a 4wheel alignment done on mine a 4 wheel aligns the front and rear wheels for castor, camber and toe it sets the steering wheel straight and sets the centre andle of the steering

      hope this helps

      Where did you get that done mate? i'm in Brum and i am searching for a local place to get it done.

      Thanks

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      • Ski
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jan 2004
        • 2591
        • Home: Poland Current: United Kingdom

        #18
        I had mine done at Tim's and it was a top job. I have heard the "national" garages have the best equipment and do the best job.
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        • WabTheKing
          S2Forum Fiend
          • May 2004
          • 2567
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          i can hand on heart recomend any garage that uses Quick Trak
          as it was manufactured by mottram engineering (me!)

          no seriously tho it is one of the leading wheel alignment systems

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          • Baldy
            S2Forum Addict
            • Jun 2004
            • 469
            • Home: Sikkim Current: British Antarctic Territory

            #20
            I've used thistlethwaites in Bolton in the past and they havea BEAR computerised 4wheel alignment rig that checks camber, caster and tracking gives printouts and all that kinda stuff its the sort of thing all the normal fast fit places and garages can only dream of. its much better tha nthe usual hang a spirit level with laser pointer on it types of alignment
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            • CR500Dom
              S2Forum Addict
              • Oct 2004
              • 237

              #21
              Lots of people still getting confused here

              National Tyres "4wheel alignment" is really 4 wheel tracking
              Lots of places advertise 4 wheel alignment but they think that means tracking.

              Most of the tyre shops Have no Idea what Camber and Castor are let alone how to adjust it

              Most cars can be Tracked front and rear, some have camber adjustment on the front but normally only due to manufacturing tolerances.

              The S2 and Quattros have Adjustable Toe (Tracking) on all 4 wheels, Adjustable Camber on all 4 wheels and limited Castor adjustment.

              A proper 4 wheel alignment rig does all measurements on each wheel independantly but at the same time. Then you just need a fitter who knows what to adjust to get the desired result.

              I gave up trying to tell him when he said "thats close enough" for about the 5th time Told him to push the buttons on the computer while I did the adjustments

              Buy a Camber guage from Demon Thieves or Pace, set yourself up on a flat patch and do it your self, it really isnt that hard

              Hope this clears up any confusion
              Just ask them if they do a Full suspension geometry check rather than 4 wheel tracking
              Cheers
              Dom

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              • curlyks2
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Feb 2004
                • 1069
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Originally posted by CR500Dom
                Then you just need a fitter who knows what to adjust to get the desired result... I gave up trying to tell him when he said "thats close enough" for about the 5th time
                Yeah - on my previous car I got "it's within tolerance" (both wheels visibly pointing in different directions), so promptly changed garage.
                Ck.
                Shocked, exhausted, hosed, bushed, dumped, chipped, mounted, filtered, gauged, packed, intermittantly wiped and braked. I mean broken. Now, about the car...

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                • quattroTurbo
                  S2Forum Enthusiast
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 178

                  #23
                  quattro and S2 don't have caster adjustment. It can only be adjusted inadvertently setting camber and toe. The best machine for any German car is the Beissbarth (recommended and supplied by Audi), it has a proper listing for the S2 and all other Audis. You quite simply bring it up on the screen, then then reads your cars geometry and tells you graphically and numerically where to make the changes.

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                  • RS2 CQ
                    S2Forum Buff
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 42

                    #24
                    Once you guys find the 4 wheel alignment shop...how are you setting up your cars?

                    It has been recomended to me to set it up with about 1.75-2.0 degrees of neg camber, 0 toe in front and back and max caster, which i do not think is adjustable on my car. Do you think that is a good setting for occasional street driving, and agressive track use?

                    It is my understanding that the more negitive camber you put in the better it turns. Has anyone tried a ton of negative camber?...Like 2.5 degrees?
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                    • S2central.net
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 16590
                      • Country: Northern Ireland

                      #25
                      I don't remember the recommendation for best 'toe' and 'caster' settings but I do know for sure that MORE NEGATIVE camber on the front wheels improves handling in the turns on any car regardless of FWD, RWD or 4WD.
                      Paul Nugent
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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        4 Wheel Alignment specs

                        What is the correct spec for the S2?

                        MikeS2 and S2Central / Erwin have different specs listed.




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                        • mcandmar
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 5118
                          • Country: Ireland

                          #27
                          S2Central looks correct to me, the difference is only a tiny bit more Toe on the front, the second numbers are the acceptable adjustment range, S2Central just has slightly tighter values for adjustment. You can ignore the second figures, just get the first as close as possible.

                          To be honest either is within the specs, most tracking centers aren’t that accurate anyway.
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                          • Mikes2
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 1704
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #28
                            Paul's site only lists the Bentley spec for the 20v which uses different data from the S2. The info on my site was taken from the alignment machine output.

                            Have you got Erwin data for the Coupe.The only Erwin data I have is for the Avant / saloon.
                            Mike

                            http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #29
                              My info came from an OFRM sourced on Erwin for the Avant & Sedan. I couldn't find anything S2 Coupe specific from Audi on this - just the Bentley manual for the CQ20V.


                              Paul
                              Paul Nugent
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                              Administrator http://S2forum.com

                              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                              • mcandmar
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 5118
                                • Country: Ireland

                                #30
                                When i got a four wheel alignment done they already had an S2 coupe in there computer system. The specs matched perfectly with the Bentley manual for my CQ20v.

                                This is what i brought with me, same as posted on S2Central,

                                Front Wheel Alignment:

                                Total toe in +10' +/- 10'

                                Camber -50' +/- 30'

                                Track angle @ 20 % lock:
                                -1' +/- 30'

                                Castor:
                                Coupe +2"15' +/- 30'


                                Rear Wheel Alignment:

                                Total toe out +20' +/- 10'

                                Camber -45" +/- 20'
                                91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                                93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                                94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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