Camber Adjustment Bolts

[Chasman]

I am fitting H&R lowering springs to my RS2 and intend to use H&Rs "Triple C" camber adjustment bolts http://www.hrsprings.com/site/frameproducts.html to compensate for the change in geometry. However, I need to know the diameter of the existing bolts and it is a bit tricky with them on the car! Does anyone know where I can find this out? :confused:

[SteveH]

The OE bolts are M14x1.5x75mm That kit looks like a great idea...group buy anyone

HTH
Steve

[SteveH]

TC114's are the correct ones by the look of it...£37.50 a side.

[peterp]

Obviously you need the TC114 (bracket is ~48 mm)
There seem to be struts with 12mm bolts also, so check first!
Peter

[audiman]

Whats the point in this? The camber is adjustable on the bottom balljoint! I have lowered mine and it is still able to get the alignment correct.

These bolts are for cars the there is NO adjustment for camber angles, such as Ford Escorts etc

[Chasman]

Thanks for the information Audiman - looks like a red herring then. That's saved me $80 + postage. This just goes to show a little knowledge is dangerous... I knew the geomtry would change and found a solution but my lack of detailed knowledge of the vehicle means it was a bit pointless. Thanks for the help.

[audiman]

No worries. I cant believe SteveH didnt know this!! Muppet. LOL Give yourself a big slap on the head for that one!

Anyways call me Tom

[The Spanish]

One more thing.

Is the camber also ajustable on the rear of the coupe or would this help?

Rafael

[sal_s2]

The rear camber is also adjustable

[90quattrocoupe]

Hi,
It is true that you can adjust the camber using the balljoint, but this just brings the camber back into Audi specs. I have found you need a little more than that.

I am running some 2Bennett camber caster plate bushings. Too expensive, I think, for you get, but they do allow for camber/ caster change.

Using these bolts would allow you to increase the camber to say 2 degrees negative, and this will quicken your turn in. I may look into these bolts for the rear of my coupe. I can only get about 1 degree negative right now, but I would like about 2 degrees negative.

Greg

[SteveH]

Audiman....you wait until I see you...the slaps will be coming your way:nana:

I know you can adjust the camber on the bottom balljoint, however, that's a pain in the *** compared to being able to adjust from within the wheel arch. Also, in my case, I've run out of adjustment on one side - Must have been bashed in the past. These could help to dial in a bit more camber, and could be useful for quick and easy adjustments for track use, as it mentions. The price is a bit steep for two bolts though, and I have loads of things to sort on my car before I get round to anything like this. I think I'll just take a grinder to my original bolts, that should do the trick:eek2:

[Stick Insect]

Hi 90Quattrocoupe,

As you say the turn in is improved but this will take the inside edge off your tyres more quickly, is the car a daily driver or a weekend special? what have you found regarding the tyre wear.

I wish to reduce the understeer and will be looking at improving the rear anti rollbar.

David

[90quattrocoupe]

Originally posted by Stick Insect
Hi 90Quattrocoupe,

As you say the turn in is improved but this will take the inside edge off your tyres more quickly, is the car a daily driver or a weekend special? what have you found regarding the tyre wear.

I wish to reduce the understeer and will be looking at improving the rear anti rollbar.

David

Hi David,
The car is not a daily driver, but it is used for road trips, auto-x and what we call here in the states, a canyon carver. I am running about 1.5 negative camber, negative caster, and a degree of toe in. I have been running this setup for about 2 years, 9,000 miles, and have not found tread wear to be abnormal. I run Yokohama AVS Intermediates, which they don't make anymor. They have a tread wear rating of 150.

Toe in and toe out will effect tire wear a lot more than a negative camber. I rotate every oil change, so wear is more even.

I am currently running a 19 mm rear bar, but I find I still have a little too much push at lower speeds. When I am running canyons, it works fine. I would like to use the camber bolts on the rear, to get a little more camber. It is pretty close to Zero. Also I have heard that 1 degree toe out in the rear helps with turn in.

Hope that helps

Greg

[Stick Insect]

Thanks Greg, good info, the 7A engine is not as heavy as the S2 but the same thing should work for them.

What is the 19mm anti roll bar from please? There was a link about using the Audi 4000 ( Audi 90 ) late 80s version front ARB.

I thought that the quattro had camber adjustment wishbones on the rear?.

Us mere mortals have seen canyon running on television before.

Isn't it something Bo and Luke Duke did?

David

[90quattrocoupe]

Originally posted by Stick Insect
Thanks Greg, good info, the 7A engine is not as heavy as the S2 but the same thing should work for them.

What is the 19mm anti roll bar from please? There was a link about using the Audi 4000 ( Audi 90 ) late 80s version front ARB.

I thought that the quattro had camber adjustment wishbones on the rear?.

Us mere mortals have seen canyon running on television before.

Isn't it something Bo and Luke Duke did?

David

Hi David,
The 19mm bar is from a company in the states called 2Bennett. They and one other company over here are about the only ones that know they made Audis before the A4. Otherwise, always hard to get parts.

I recently bought a Whiteline bar, have yet to install, because I would like the adjustability. Besides, it supposedly goes up to 20 mm effectively, supposedly.

The use of the 4000Q or early 80 for you, requires the changing out of the quattro wishbones with the 4000 wishbones. They change out with the rear suspension. Then you can use the front bar. The main problem, is the bar is 26mm. I know other people who have done it, but makes the rear tail happy, unless you also go with an extreme front bar.

The only adjustment for camber in the rear is the ball joint. Not enough.

The Dukes used the dirt back roads a little too much. We have a few mountains here in the states, and it fun just running the mountain roads. Especially at night or early in the morning when there are less people on them. Kind of like have a road course, without having to pay to use it. Not only that, but the range of turns is more diverse. Some tight, some open, increasing radius, decreasing radius, off camber, all you have to do is remember to stay on your side of the road.

Greg