Not happy with KW v1

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  • K Simmonds
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2007
    • 7627
    • Country: Wales

    #16
    Well as I said KW are okay and do work well, but compared to the set of custom coupe coil-overs I have that another member is interested in their not well made, as proven by the issues with yours.

    Personally I like stock suspension as it works properly on all road surfaces and company's like Audi probably spend hundreds of thousands of Euros on testing and getting them right.

    I'd go with that BC kit if you want adjustable suspension.

    I've always found Eibach springs to be very good, better than H&R, but can you get them for an S2 Avant though.
    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
    1994 MTM RS2.
    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
    2000 B5 TQS.

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    • M_GORDON
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Oct 2008
      • 1295
      • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

      #17
      Thanks man
      I'll go for those BC


      Ps. Someone wants my KWs? ?
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      • K Simmonds
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Dec 2007
        • 7627
        • Country: Wales

        #18
        No problem, that BC kit looks very good, hope it works out better for you than the KW's.

        BTW, I don't mean to slag KW's off, they're pretty bloody good, but just like everything these day they're built to cost so could always be better.
        1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
        1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
        1994 MTM RS2.
        1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
        2000 B5 TQS.

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        • larsaskogstad
          S2Forum Maniac
          • May 2020
          • 674
          • Country: Norway

          #19
          BC coilovers seems nice, would have tired them myself but without the tüv papers its unusable for us in scandalnavia

          Hope my KW v3 works better
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          • M_GORDON
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Oct 2008
            • 1295
            • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

            #20
            Hi.
            I'm talking with BC and their spring rates seems quite lows
            on rear 12 kilos, pretty good but in front only 4 kilos!



            Front system from a coupe
            Rear side from an a4 b5
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            • K Simmonds
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Dec 2007
              • 7627
              • Country: Wales

              #21
              Right, that does seem a little out of whack, however to start with what units are you talking in? I'm guessing it's kg per mm?

              There are some really good online spring rate calculators, most are in freedom unit's (imperial) as their US site's but it's not hard to convert kg's to lb's, 1kg = 2.2lb. You also need to be able to convert from mm/cm to inches and feet, that's not quite so easy, I'm used to doing it as I'm happy working in either set of unit's.

              However, for a quick conversion you can use 1" = 25.5mm, it actually 25.54mm but unless your working dimensions for an F1 car 25.5mm is close enough

              You'll also need other data regarding angles, leverage point dimensions and corner weights (both sprung and un-sprung) but all this info is readily available on the good old internet.

              I don't have time at the moment to work it all out, but I could sit and do it late this evening, though it's not exactly a fun project.
              Last edited by K Simmonds; 7 May 2022, 09:54.
              1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
              1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
              1994 MTM RS2.
              1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
              2000 B5 TQS.

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              • Mzx944
                S2Forum Fanatic
                • Mar 2022
                • 53
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Messaged deleted - realise these were for S2 not S6

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                • NickzD
                  S2Forum Buff
                  • Mar 2020
                  • 37
                  • Country: United States

                  #23
                  Originally posted by K Simmonds
                  No problem, that BC kit looks very good, hope it works out better for you than the KW's.

                  BTW, I don't mean to slag KW's off, they're pretty bloody good, but just like everything these day they're built to cost so could always be better.
                  My friend is looking to get BC or KW's. It seems BC is a better choice. We'll work on his S2 after we installed the rack and tonneau covers on his pick-up truck this weekend.

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                  • M_GORDON
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1295
                    • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

                    #24
                    Hi.
                    BC send me other mail
                    They have 3 spring rates for the avant s2

                    standard: 4/5 kilos
                    16/14 kilos
                    And
                    6 on both sides
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                    • K Simmonds
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 7627
                      • Country: Wales

                      #25
                      I'm sure they're pretty well researched so can't be far out, but I really need confirmation that your talking in kg's per mm to make head or tail of that info.
                      1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                      1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                      1994 MTM RS2.
                      1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                      2000 B5 TQS.

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                      • struikie
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • May 2019
                        • 314
                        • Country: Netherlands

                        #26
                        The numbers for KW V3 on the quattro sedan are 60 or 70 N/mm (linear).
                        For the rear they are 54 N/mm (progressive).
                        Those would equate to 6.1 and 7.1kg/mm front and 5.5 kg/mm for the rear.

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                        | daily | 2018 BMW G31 530d | 345bhp 770Nm |

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                        • M_GORDON
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1295
                          • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

                          #27
                          Who are the kilos for my sucks v1?

                          Ps. Don't know if those kilos are on milimeters. I suppose.
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