Ur Quattro steering rack HELP!!!

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  • Blagave
    S2Forum Addict
    • Aug 2023
    • 270
    • Country: United States

    #1

    Ur Quattro steering rack HELP!!!

    Hello,
    I am hoping someone might be able to share a possible cause for my steering issue.

    I have a 83 UR quattro with the stock 75 bar steering pump and steering rack. The steering rack has been rebuilt.

    This issue I am having is the car steers well until i hit 5,500 rpm and after that the front end darts and it feels like there is no pressure to the steering wheel. I have to put very little input for any correction and it is a bit of handful.

    Any ideas ?

    Thanks

  • Crasher
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Nov 2018
    • 139
    • Country: England

    #2
    Could be the rack or the pump over pressurising. It would make sense to get the pump rebuilt and hope the rack is good.

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    • Blagave
      S2Forum Addict
      • Aug 2023
      • 270
      • Country: United States

      #3
      Originally posted by Crasher
      Could be the rack or the pump over pressurising. It would make sense to get the pump rebuilt and hope the rack is good.
      Crasher.......agree 100% with what you are saying about over pressurizing. Since the rack has been rebuilt and way harder to remove, I think my next move is to send the power steering pump out for rebuild. I am curious if anyone else has had this issue.

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      • Crasher
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Nov 2018
        • 139
        • Country: England

        #4
        You can buy rebuild kits and the single stage pump is very simple to rebuild.

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        • Blagave
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          • Aug 2023
          • 270
          • Country: United States

          #5
          Do you have a link fir a rebuild kit?

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          • Crasher
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Nov 2018
            • 139
            • Country: England

            #6
            This is the only source I know of https://www.autewo.de/search?sSearch=035198049a

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            • GT500
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jun 2006
              • 2181
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Pretty sure the pipe from the pump has an in built restrictor. Are your pipes audi ones?
              Rob..
              94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
              87 UR 20v ABY
              97 S6 Avant
              96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
              1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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              • Blagave
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                • Aug 2023
                • 270
                • Country: United States

                #8
                Originally posted by Crasher
                This is the only source I know of https://www.autewo.de/search?sSearch=035198049a
                Thank you

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                • Blagave
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Aug 2023
                  • 270
                  • Country: United States

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GT500
                  Pretty sure the pipe from the pump has an in built restrictor. Are your pipes audi ones?
                  Yes, the maintenance book shows a relief valve and states “don’t remove”
                  The hoses are new / modified, but more or less the same diameter hose and lengths

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                  • GT500
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 2181
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Blagave
                    Yes, the maintenance book shows a relief valve and states “don’t remove”
                    The hoses are new / modified, but more or less the same diameter hose and lengths
                    I had the original ends put on new pipe and it didn't work.

                    Rob..
                    94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                    87 UR 20v ABY
                    97 S6 Avant
                    96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                    1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                    • Blagave
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Aug 2023
                      • 270
                      • Country: United States

                      #11
                      That’s interesting that your new hoses created an issue with your steering. Unfortunately, with the 20v motor and radiator angle, I need a slightly longer hose for the high pressure side.
                      the shop that made the hoses used the same
                      ID of the oem hose for the new hose.

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                      • GT500
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 2181
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Blagave
                        That’s interesting that your new hoses created an issue with your steering. Unfortunately, with the 20v motor and radiator angle, I need a slightly longer hose for the high pressure side.
                        the shop that made the hoses used the same
                        ID of the oem hose for the new hose.
                        I got around it by buying a pipe for a different Audi, probably c4 v6. It was longer (i have 20v in ur). The end at the rack was different but that was easy to use the car's original end. I made a sleeve to join the metal parts of pipe together. Brazed it.
                        Rob..
                        94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                        87 UR 20v ABY
                        97 S6 Avant
                        96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                        1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                        • 4WDrifter
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1250
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #13
                          Just wondering if you’ve made any progress with your issue?
                          1996 S2 ABY Coupe silver
                          2003 S3 8L dolphin grey
                          2014 RS4 B8 prism silver

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                          • Blagave
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                            • Aug 2023
                            • 270
                            • Country: United States

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 4WDrifter
                            Just wondering if you’ve made any progress with your issue?
                            I have been traveling, so haven’t had a chance to go any further with the power steering issue. I think my first step will be replacing or rebuilding the power steering pump when I get back

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                            • saltinot
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • May 2004
                              • 1946

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blagave
                              Do you have a link fir a rebuild kit?
                              I have rebuilt a few pumps using the Rennbay kit. These are state-side too.

                              Rebuilding is easy to do as long as you keep things organized and clean.

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