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  • Puglife
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jun 2006
    • 731
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Type 85 UR quattro is 1300kg stock weight. I'm hopingto get that down to nearer 1050kg, doing a full parts list of weights in LB's and KG's.
    Jay - pug_life85@hotmail.com

    1986 Audi UR quattro - WORK IN PROGRESS
    1981 VW Mk1 Golf - "20v Jim, but not as we know it!"

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    • Ian Simmonds
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jun 2005
      • 2858
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      The reality of the early 'stock' , or curb weights quoted were they were short on fluids etc, many many years ago I parked a standard 2.2i KE engined GT on a weighbridge with a 1050 curb (book weight) with less than a quarter of a tank of fuel, no spare wheel and no driver... The bridge registered 1150kg....

      So erm, the more you park a car on a weighbridge the better you'll understand just how heavy 'light' cars are... And as for heavy ones (like our B6 A4 Avant... Full of family, fuel, Top box and packed to the gunwalls... - must be close to 2 metric tonnes)
      85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
      93 MTMS2 Avant

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      • Lloyd
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Apr 2006
        • 1559
        • Home: Wales Current: England

        #18
        I think generally you're right.

        Although, taking away say roughly 3/4 of a 60 litre tank, maybe 45Kg ish.... (what's the density of tesco 99?) I would say the RS2 is about bang on with it's stated weight.

        Wasn't it advertised as weighing about 1595 Kg?
        RS2+ (now sold...)

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        • diesel des
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Feb 2004
          • 3896

          #19
          Petrol has a SG of about 0.71. Diesel 0.83

          So 100L of petrol is about 71kg.

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          • Keeper of The Kitten
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Dec 2003
            • 2317
            • Country: England

            #20
            Are the Avant tanks smaller?? 68-70 for a coupe?

            Either way about 3/4 tank is going to be 45-50 litres, so that'll be about 32-36kg...

            ...which gets the original RS2 weighbridge result down to just a few kg over the 1595kg listed above (1604-1608 excluding the listed fuel level, remember that fuel level is estimated).

            Can Lloyd tell us if the car is totally stock or has aftermarket wheels, for example?
            Martin Cutting

            aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

            It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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            • Ian Simmonds
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jun 2005
              • 2858
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              stainless exhaust... That's the kiddo, the standard system could be used to conquer small nations....
              85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
              93 MTMS2 Avant

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              • Acidburn
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Jun 2007
                • 13459
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Yeah I know standard exhausts on a coupe are very heavy to say the least. But show's how well they are built etc.

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                • s2driveruk
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 12696
                  • Country: England

                  #23
                  yeah but they do last pretty well, i think my back box started blowing at 115k
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                  1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                  • Acidburn
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 13459
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Originally posted by s2driveruk
                    yeah but they do last pretty well, i think my back box started blowing at 115k
                    Mine was still fine at 187k but had rubbed slightly on the driveshaft and put 2x pinhole's in it, swapped for a scorpion back box atm.

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                    • Lloyd
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 1559
                      • Home: Wales Current: England

                      #25
                      Good points raised there, which I had rather conveniently forgotten....

                      Avant tank is smaller than the coupe at 60l (read this somewhere on here)

                      Car has Milltek catback zorst and cup 1 18" wheels (as sported recently on Dan's (Sherv) late black RS2 and still on Rob's GT500 RS2) not sure if these are lighter or heavier overall than the OEM's with tyres.

                      The OEM exhaust is without doubt a LOT heavier than the milltek. Maybe x2?
                      RS2+ (now sold...)

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                      • Ian Simmonds
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 2858
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Acidburn
                        Mine was still fine at 187k but had rubbed slightly on the driveshaft and put 2x pinhole's in it, swapped for a scorpion back box atm.
                        My avant's on 136k, 15yrs old, and original system... Still good for many a 'k' yet according to the local VAG dealer...
                        85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
                        93 MTMS2 Avant

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                        • EspenW
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1534
                          • Country: Norway

                          #27
                          I work in the bicycle biz, where we count grams, so I have transferred my weight weenie-ism to automobiles as well. I weigh my RS2 pretty frequently, and it normally weighs in at approx 1530kg, with approx. 10 liters of fuel left in the tank.
                          No spare (-20kg), lightweight battery (-10kg), deleted aux rad (-4kg), aluminum spare wheel well cover replaced with high density styrofoam (-3kg).
                          Milltek 3" stainless cat back exhaust shaves punds too.
                          A full tank of gas weighs approx 45kg, so filling up less saves much weight. Filling up 20-30l saves 25-30kg.
                          Other cars:
                          1994 FWD 80 Avant with 2.0E: approx 1290kg with close to full tank.
                          The Mk2 Golf weighs in at a feathery 925kg (gutted).
                          Just weighed a 05 B6 1.8T Quattro Avant, and it weighed in at 1610kg with a full tank of gasoline. Ran an effortless 0-60 in 7.9secs with a full tank.
                          1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                          1994 80E Avant
                          1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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                          • dubmeister
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 522
                            • Country: Wales

                            #28
                            S2 - 230 hp 1500kg
                            Mk1 GTI 16v - 180 hp 850kg

                            No wonder you fatboys can't keep up!!!!!

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                            • Puglife
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 731
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              shoot me down for this but my daily till a few weeks ago was my 205 gti mi16....

                              165bhp - 805kg on weighbridge..... geared to top out at 130mph and 0-60 in 5.8.....
                              but then again it had next to no traction in the wet unlike a proper quattro lol.
                              Jay - pug_life85@hotmail.com

                              1986 Audi UR quattro - WORK IN PROGRESS
                              1981 VW Mk1 Golf - "20v Jim, but not as we know it!"

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                              • Lloyd
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 1559
                                • Home: Wales Current: England

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Puglife
                                shoot me down for this but my daily till a few weeks ago was my 205 gti mi16....

                                165bhp - 805kg on weighbridge..... geared to top out at 130mph and 0-60 in 5.8.....
                                but then again it had next to no traction in the wet unlike a proper quattro lol.
                                I built and ran one of these too. Best mod was an AP torque biasing diff. Lot's more torque steer but incredible grip!
                                RS2+ (now sold...)

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