RS2 handling/steering advice

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[Ducky]

I can f**kin' see that fine...

[Golfboy666GTI]

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[Golfboy666GTI]

Well the car is now sorted!

Believe it or not the car had two loose nuts and bolts around the shock absorber that is attached to the steering rack! The car now loads up going around corners and I have feedback!

I thought I was loosing the plot! So pleased it wasnt me

[Rusty]

Can't say I entirely agree with everyone here about slow in, fast out... Stu and Lloyd who've been passengers with me on the Ring can vouch on how fast a proper S2 can be.

I personally, to say it like the thread creator said it, take it by the scruff and throw it fast in corners ( which I didn't do with your S2 David btw ) , let the initail understeer settle in while aiming for the apex, then basically, "cure" the understeer by nailing at WOT and full boost slightly before apex to get the front wheels and the marvelous quattro w/Torsen system to help turn the car and get me past the apex, the rest of the curve is just WOT and on your way . So I would say medium fast in, WOT and full boost in apex then VERY fast on the way out as the curve widens.

Works for me !

Careful applying well behaved Avant tactics to the wayward coupe The combination of old style suspension and wobbly chassis makes for some interesting handling on the limit, to paraphrase Roger Clark, as long as you're not looking out the rear window, you can get it back

[Error404]

not the quickest way round the corner, but the most fun!

[MidnightBlueS2]

It took me a few years to get the hang of my S2, the controls are al a bit funny and the driving position too, once it clicked tho it's faster than most things. The important thing to remember is that you need to enter a corner slower to get the best turn in but your exit speed will be a lot higher than a 2wd car due to mid corner traction. Hope you get your head round it, that's the biggest hurdle, think of it as a 2 ton hot hatch and drive accordingly, lift-off oversteer is your friend

An upgraded rear roll bar is the best mod you can make IMO, do that before everything else

Can't say I entirely agree with everyone here about slow in, fast out... Stu and Lloyd who've been passengers with me on the Ring can vouch on how fast a proper S2 can be.

I personally, to say it like the thread creator said it, take it by the scruff and throw it fast in corners ( which I didn't do with your S2 David btw ) , let the initail understeer settle in while aiming for the apex, then basically, "cure" the understeer by nailing at WOT and full boost slightly before apex to get the front wheels and the marvelous quattro w/Torsen system to help turn the car and get me past the apex, the rest of the curve is just WOT and on your way . So I would say medium fast in, WOT and full boost in apex then VERY fast on the way out as the curve widens.

Works for me !

[lind4hl]

im looking for a shorter rack! lhd..

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Pic stolen from Stu's rebuild guide




Would be worth investigating costs and numbers for a quick rack kit maybe?

It might even be that the RHD and LHD rack and pinion are the same in which case maybe we could convince 034 to sell us a batch

[Jamo]

Fair enough my mistake....... i'd seen some posts elsewhere suggesting it was just a euro rack so I assume its the rack and pinion that they changed.
I asked 034 ages ago if they could do a mod for a RHD rack, but they said no.

Ah yes just seen that, that's a bit naughty as well

[Error404]

Fair enough my mistake....... i'd seen some posts elsewhere suggesting it was just a euro rack so I assume its the rack and pinion that they changed.
I asked 034 ages ago if they could do a mod for a RHD rack, but they said no.

EDIT: IIRC Quaife do kits for escorts etc for under £100, so shouldn't be that hard / expensive to get some made for RHD cars... just need a donor rack i guess

[Lloyd]

Careful as that is not what 034 advertise, their rack is 2 turns hence the members request for clarification.

http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_66_67&products_id=817

It seems 034 have the US rack rebuilt to a shorter ratio

I would like one on my car! Has anyone got one here in the UK?

[Jamo]

No. AAH, ABC, 3B, ABY and ADU are all 2.6 turns and AFAIK the the 034 item is just an OEM "2.6 turns rack" which they never got in the US. Dunno where this 2 turns comes from

Careful as that is not what 034 advertise, their rack is 2 turns hence the members request for clarification.

http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_66_67&products_id=817

It seems 034 have the US rack rebuilt to a shorter ratio

[Error404]

sorry for the offtop once again.
Did i get it right, that 3B rack is 3 turns, ABY,ABC & AAH rack is 2.6 turns, and ADU&034 racks are exactly 2 turns?

No. AAH, ABC, 3B, ABY and ADU are all 2.6 turns and AFAIK the the 034 item is just an OEM "2.6 turns rack" which they never got in the US. Dunno where this 2 turns comes from

[Rusty]

Thanks for your reply.
I done enjoy the challenge of learning how to drive this car fast.
Most cars (I get to drive a lot as Dad is a Manager of a car yard) I get in I can drive quick after about 1 mile on sitting behind the wheel.
To be honest I dont feel I can drive the RS2 quicker around corners in the rain than I could in my old Mk3 VR6 which is 2wd.
I might look at replacing the bushes, and Im still keen to find out more about these steering rack mount bolts that a forum member had issues (stretch) with.

It took me a few years to get the hang of my S2, the controls are al a bit funny and the driving position too, once it clicked tho it's faster than most things. The important thing to remember is that you need to enter a corner slower to get the best turn in but your exit speed will be a lot higher than a 2wd car due to mid corner traction. Hope you get your head round it, that's the biggest hurdle, think of it as a 2 ton hot hatch and drive accordingly, lift-off oversteer is your friend

An upgraded rear roll bar is the best mod you can make IMO, do that before everything else