Potential GB - Powerflex missing bushes

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  • madpugger
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2007
    • 1901
    • Country: Scotland

    #16
    Yeah I think the B4/B5 quattros all use the same setup but part number checks would be good.

    @Paul Nugent - I think most the legwork here is getting the bits to powerflex and proving the interest. The guy said they would just add them to the catalogue so a GB would not be compulsory, but we may get a discount if we went that way... A GB may well speed it up though.

    As the Sedan and B5s? are the same also, can folk on other forums of interest relay the info to them? Thanks!

    As Jamo says, aside from the subframes, Powerflex do most the bushes already and they seemed keen to finish the job.

    Does someone have a schematic from the family album I could pass to Powerflex?

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    • madpugger
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      • Sep 2007
      • 1901
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      #17
      Holy cr@p Paul, that was fast!

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      • madpugger
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        • Sep 2007
        • 1901
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        #18
        Paul, could you add the Shockers and track rod to this?

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #19
          I'm working on that now - plus visual evidence of B4 and B5 similarity at the rear end... Its quite amazing actually - I knew there was similarity but I didn't expect a clone job.
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          • madpugger
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            • Sep 2007
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            #20
            I had heard, from Vag Parts, that the S2 rear on the Sedan/Avant was so over engineered that they still used it on the RS4, but I assume he meant B5 and like you, I assumed it would be modified slightly...

            Cheers for the help

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            • mcandmar
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              • Apr 2004
              • 5118
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              #21
              Can you add the part numbers too Paul

              The lower bush has two part numbers that changed from R designated chassis, curious as to the difference.

              Upper a-arm has two different part numbers for cast and pressed steel versions. Note they already make the pressed steel versions.
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              • madpugger
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                • Sep 2007
                • 1901
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                #22
                Originally posted by mcandmar
                Can you add the part numbers too Paul

                The lower bush has two part numbers that changed from R designated chassis, curious as to the difference.

                Upper a-arm has two different part numbers for cast and pressed steel versions. Note they already make the pressed steel versions.
                Ahh excellent, I will amend the list for cast. Im sure mine are cast... Anyone got photos of each?

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                • lind4hl
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                  • Jul 2008
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                  #23
                  skull:

                  wrong bush, i mean the front on the diff

                  One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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                  • Flat on my back
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                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2449
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
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                    Cast and pressed.
                    Attached Files
                    Carlos.

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                    • Skull
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                      • Mar 2004
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by lind4hl
                      skull:

                      wrong bush, i mean the front on the diff
                      yes the front diff bush is this:

                      Audi Quattro WR

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                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #26
                        Taking longer than I'd like - but there is a couple of variants I want to capture accurately here.
                        Paul Nugent
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                        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                        • lind4hl
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                          • Jul 2008
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                          #27
                          skull: yes i know that already, but if you can get it cheaper maybe a hell of a lot money for an bushing...

                          One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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                          • madpugger
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                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1901
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                            #28
                            No worries Paul, take your time... The more accurate the info we can give the better.

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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #29
                              Where else would you get it

                              Seriously though - I was juggling the day job here as well - someone else should check this out for typos and stuff. In summary B4 and B5 quattro rear is pretty much identical. Some bushes change thru the years but I am 99% that is for different materials - not different fitment.

                              Early B4 had forged upper wishbones... then went to sided pressed ones.
                              All B5 except RS4 had pressed upper wishbones.

                              The B4 boys (including S2 Avant/Sedan, the RS2 and all other 80 quattros on an '8C' chassis) should be able to make use of any uprated bushes for the B5 quattro. Hopefully Powerflex can provide a complete offering. I don't have a good pic of the front mount on the rear diff - I assume the bush and bracket are one part from Audi.

                              PDF attached for lots of piccies and part numbers. Need a lie down now after checking 80Q - RS2 - A4Q - RS4 a few times.
                              Attached Files
                              Paul Nugent
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                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                              • mcandmar
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                                • Apr 2004
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                                #30
                                Nice work Paul ...so you noticed the larger ARB on the RS4 too
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