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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Originally posted by s2avant
    What rear dampers are you using on yours Jamo?

    Ben
    Mine are Koni's all round same as Madpugger, hmm I spot a theme..........

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    • Error404
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2007
      • 19789
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      how many coffins are in the boot Jamo?
      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
      Indigo ABY coupé
      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Originally posted by Error404
        how many coffins are in the boot Jamo?
        I can always make room for one more Error404

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        • madpugger
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Sep 2007
          • 1901
          • Country: Scotland

          #19
          Originally posted by Jamo
          Mine are Koni's all round same as Madpugger, hmm I spot a theme..........
          I can't see that the dampers would change the ride height? I know they have a certain amount of gas pressure, but you can push any shock in by hand so the weight of a car would overcome differences with no notable ride height difference between brands.

          Le Mans 2012
          Nurburgring 700
          1995 S2 Avant

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Originally posted by madpugger
            I can't see that the dampers would change the ride height? I know they have a certain amount of gas pressure, but you can push any shock in by hand so the weight of a car would overcome differences with no notable ride height difference between brands.
            Koni shocks have shortened shock travel over OEM RS2 / S2 ones

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            • madpugger
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Sep 2007
              • 1901
              • Country: Scotland

              #21
              Originally posted by Jamo
              Koni shocks have shortened shock travel over OEM RS2 / S2 ones
              That stops the shock bottoming out for sure, but the ride hight is set by the spring which sits between the turret and the wishbone, i.e. Koni in or no shock at all, it should sit at the same ride height...

              Unless I am remembering wrong and the spring sits on the shock itself on the rear?

              Le Mans 2012
              Nurburgring 700
              1995 S2 Avant

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Originally posted by madpugger
                That stops the shock bottoming out for sure, but the ride hight is set by the spring which sits between the turret and the wishbone, i.e. Koni in or no shock at all, it should sit at the same ride height...

                Unless I am remembering wrong and the spring sits on the shock itself on the rear?
                spring load, on oem shocks springs won't be under pre-load due to the excess travel on koni's the spring will be under pre-load prior to shock travel.

                Will allow the spring to uncompress further and affect the ride height

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                • Sonic
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 5514
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #23
                  Having just changed from billies to koni's, the rear does seem to sit lower (coupe not avant).
                  S2Forum.com Administrator

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                  • Nuvo
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3825

                    #24
                    When lowering a car by 40mm>, you really need to use a shortened shock otherwise you will shorten the life of the damper as it would always be under compression. Running a shortened shock also prevents the spring from coming free from the turret or top mount on full rebound.

                    A standard shock will always be under some compression when used with a shortened spring, this in turn will have the effect of limiting the spring from compressing as much as it would with a shortened shock.

                    It is perfectly normal to see a drop in ride height when using a shortened shock for the above reason.

                    I would also expect the stiffness of the shock could also have an influence on the ride height.
                    Last edited by Nuvo; 23 August 2010, 12:26.

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                    • Lloyd
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 1559
                      • Home: Wales Current: England

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Jamo
                      Cheers Dest, for some reason my rears are a lot lower than yours on the H&R springs, I'm seriously considering putting stock springs on all round
                      Are your dampers tired? New dampers raised my car maybe 2"
                      RS2+ (now sold...)

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lloyd
                        Are your dampers tired? New dampers raised my car maybe 2"
                        2"

                        What's the shelf life of Koni dampers?

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                        • M_GORDON
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1295
                          • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

                          #27
                          Mine, with OEM springs and Koni dampers with around 50k kms

                          Too low


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                          • mcandmar
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 5118
                            • Country: Ireland

                            #28
                            Mine sits lower than those shown. The H&R's were second hand but the shocks/bushings are all brand new.

                            91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                            93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                            94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              mcandmar that looks like mine, how does it drive / ride in this configuration?

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                              • mcandmar
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 5118
                                • Country: Ireland

                                #30
                                I dont have a problem with it, i've never been aware of any bottoming out or hopping around on bumpy roads. If anything the lack of suspension travel at the front is more of a problem, you have to watch for big bumps and really slow down for speed ramps.

                                Only issue i had was fitting the 18's, with 15mm spacers the tyres rubbed on the rear wheel arches. Went to 10mm and it was fine, closer to what it should be anyway as i think the difference in offset is 8mm with the Avus wheels.
                                91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                                93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                                94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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