H&R Avant / RS2 rideheight pics

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  • pixsaudisex2
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Sep 2004
    • 3110

    #31
    Originally posted by mcandmar
    Mine sits lower than those shown. The H&R's were second hand but the shocks/bushings are all brand new.

    Yeah but your cars not level in this photo. and as mad plugger said shocks should make no difference to the ride hight!!!!!!!!!!!!! springs yes...

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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      Of course shocks will, just look at the bilstein shock owners who have to modify the shocks to change the ride height

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      • pixsaudisex2
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Sep 2004
        • 3110

        #33
        This means the shocks wont work then or are up against seals....
        If shocks made a difference in ride hight surely you would get shock overs and not coil overs...

        But seriously i canny see as shocks make any difference unless as i say they are wedged up against soem thing like the top or bottom of the shock. An considering the cars weight is on them. The shocks must be as hard as **** im might be wrong but this was what i was always thought ( and told )

        Hey if im wrong it wouldnt be a first...
        Also like the magnetic adjustable shocks in modern cars you make them stiffer the car dont get higher.. Or am i getting the wrong end of the stick in this conversation...

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        • pixsaudisex2
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          • Sep 2004
          • 3110

          #34
          just stole this comment,,,

          If the shock damping is set correctly to work with the spring rate, the answer is "no".
          The spring is made to have a "rate" so that it will compress a given amount per given weight.
          The spring holds up the car, the shocks/dampers are there to control the action/motion of the spring thus "damping" it or absorbing the "shock", they should not affect static ride height.

          you can tell that because all the spelling is correct...

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          • terrybullwon
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2006
            • 8782
            • Country: England

            #35
            yeah dampers will not change the ride height of a car thats not there job
            Chef

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            • madpugger
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Sep 2007
              • 1901
              • Country: Scotland

              #36
              I agree, other than on the front where the spring lower mount is on the shock (in some models) and the position of that mount will have an affect on height.

              I know what Jamo is saying about preload, but i think with preload on the spring because of shorter shock, the car would still sit at the same height unless the shock is so short that at its full expansion the spring is more compressed than is is at normal ride height...

              And yes, shocks will also maybe have progressively more 'lift' as they are compressed in some cases, but nothing that would actually lift the car to a visable degree.

              BTW, I have Green H&Rs... Are there not also Blue ones?

              Le Mans 2012
              Nurburgring 700
              1995 S2 Avant

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              • pixsaudisex2
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Sep 2004
                • 3110

                #37
                and Jamo if you want i might have some koni shocks and spring you could try but i think your wheels might be to big for them...

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                • mcandmar
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5118
                  • Country: Ireland

                  #38
                  A shock absorber wont alter the ride height, BUT the lower spring perch is part of the shock on these cars. So if the lower perch is a few MM lower than a stock shock it will translate to a lower ride height.
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                  • pixsaudisex2
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 3110

                    #39
                    Originally posted by mcandmar
                    A shock absorber wont alter the ride height, BUT the lower spring perch is part of the shock on these cars. So if the lower perch is a few MM lower than a stock shock it will translate to a lower ride height.
                    but all the shocks are inserts that use the original outter casings,, dont they. although i can not remember what the rears are like on an avant..

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                    • mcandmar
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5118
                      • Country: Ireland

                      #40
                      Coupe yes but not on an avant.
                      91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                      93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                      94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                      • PaulJ
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 253
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #41
                        Bilstein coil over kit

                        This Kits sits that low as well, moved from konis and fixed length spring to get more rear travel back as it dangerous when you hit 2 bumps one after another, Car soaks up first 1 with the travel , second one throws you off the road, Anyway did not work out like that as not much more travel left in rear coil overs to get me back where I was with the Koni's in the first place

                        Cheers PJ
                        1995 RS2 Nogaro
                        1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
                        1974 Lotus Elan+2S 130/5

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                        • istoo
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                          • Mar 2006
                          • 408
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Jamo
                          Cheers Dest, for some reason my rears are a lot lower than yours on the H&R springs, I'm seriously considering putting stock springs on all round
                          Different car, ie urS4 but i am changing from H&R to standard springs as in the bigger chassis its just too low for our sh*t roads. already cost me a front bumper and the replacement is going as well...

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #43
                            Originally posted by terrybullwon
                            yeah dampers will not change the ride height of a car thats not there job
                            The spring perch is on the damper on the Avant, All Coupe owners step away from the thread

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                            • will20v
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                              • May 2007
                              • 391
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #44
                              mine has koni and h&r in this picture
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                              • mcandmar
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 5118
                                • Country: Ireland

                                #45
                                Originally posted by istoo
                                Different car, ie urS4 but i am changing from H&R to standard springs as in the bigger chassis its just too low for our sh*t roads. already cost me a front bumper and the replacement is going as well...
                                I agree with you there, our S4 also has H&R and its too low at the rear, so low you can hit the tow bar coming off speed ramps!
                                91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                                93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                                94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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