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  • jade
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jan 2005
    • 1811
    • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

    #1

    .Has anyone converted to electro hydraulic pump for steering

    Has anyone converted to electro hydraulic pump for steering, I am thinking of getting
    Rid of the tandem pump all together

    I was thinking of using a MR 2 one from a mk11 it could be fitted where the bomb was and still Retain the oil tank

    Anyone with thoughts on this

    Thanks
    Last edited by jade; 18 October 2012, 17:32.
    RS 2 580HP
  • Kieron20V
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Mar 2008
    • 1505
    • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

    #2
    I have, using mr2 pump as you say.

    But i don't have a 5 cylinder any more so can't say much about fitting place.
    I madr done brackets and its fitted to lh chassis rail so i can use original p line to steering rack.
    1994 URS4 Avant RS2+

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    • martinws
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Oct 2008
      • 917
      • Country: Scotland

      #3



      I have now bought a mk2 MR2 pump to fit to mine but u just have not got around to fitting yet. Its going on my typ85 90Q so fitting is different to an S2!

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      • jade
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jan 2005
        • 1811
        • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

        #4
        Originally posted by Kieron20V
        I have, using mr2 pump as you say.

        But i don't have a 5 cylinder any more so can't say much about fitting place.
        I madr done brackets and its fitted to lh chassis rail so i can use original p line to steering rack.
        Ok thanks for the feedback
        RS 2 580HP

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        • Tonks4x4
          Retired OG Mod
          • Nov 2005
          • 3062
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          What is the advantage of this?
          Audi Nut!!!

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          • jade
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jan 2005
            • 1811
            • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

            #6
            Originally posted by martinws
            http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthr...steering+power


            I have now bought a mk2 MR2 pump to fit to mine but u just have not got around to fitting yet. Its going on my typ85 90Q so fitting is different to an S2!
            Looked at that have few questions

            So the pump runs all the time, how does it control flow it just run at full flow all the time
            RS 2 580HP

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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              AFAIK the MK2 pumps just run and run. The MK3 MR2 pumps have a speed controller built into the motor which takes a feed from the speed sensor so the motor winds down the faster you go, like servotronic but actually works.
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • martinws
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Oct 2008
                • 917
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                My plan was to have it on a disused dash switch to a relay so i could have it on or off. You could probably vary the voltage to it to change the assistance. I originally took the power steering off because i liked the feeling of the heavier steering and wanted to get as much weight off the front end as possible but iv now realised that the column is not built to have that much force put through it and flexes alot after a while. I bought the electric pump as something interesting to do really and mess about with variable assistance.

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                • Error404
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 19789
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  The flex you can feel is the torsion bar in the rack twisting. you need a manual rack to do it properly.
                  Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                  Indigo ABY coupé
                  Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                  • jade
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 1811
                    • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

                    #10
                    Originally posted by martinws
                    My plan was to have it on a disused dash switch to a relay so i could have it on or off. You could probably vary the voltage to it to change the assistance. I originally took the power steering off because i liked the feeling of the heavier steering and wanted to get as much weight off the front end as possible but iv now realised that the column is not built to have that much force put through it and flexes alot after a while. I bought the electric pump as something interesting to do really and mess about with variable assistance.
                    I have vems so I could possably use that to control it
                    RS 2 580HP

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                    • cooperquattro
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 815
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      i have a solution,use a bmw electro-hydraulic pas pump,couple with a potentiometer,and you have variable resistance,if you are clever enough,you can also incorporate a speed sensor into the circuit...so the faster you go the harder(or softer )the the steering is

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                      • Tonks4x4
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 3062
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I put a Vauxhall Corsa C electric steering column in my B2 80 and mated it to manual rack.
                        It has variable assistance via a potentiometer on the dash.
                        Audi Nut!!!

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                        • cooperquattro
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 815
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          yes have seen that one brian in your project,an excellent idea,but requires more hands on approach that most wont be able to do(alloy welding and space behind the dash)
                          how does it feel???

                          the electo hydraulic ones use the existing pas rack and pipework with similar effects

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                          • Tonks4x4
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3062
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cooperquattro
                            yes have seen that one brian in your project,an excellent idea,but requires more hands on approach that most wont be able to do(alloy welding and space behind the dash)
                            how does it feel???

                            the electo hydraulic ones use the existing pas rack and pipework with similar effects
                            Ok I see, but I am still a little unsure of the benefit?

                            It can't be for weight saving? As one unit to replace the pump is marginal.

                            It can't be for converting to vacuum servo as you can just remove the front vein in the pump and cap the feed to the brake bomb.

                            So I don't see then need? That's what I was trying to ask.
                            Audi Nut!!!

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                            • cooperquattro
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 815
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              i thought they were just trying to get rid of the bomb and make the steering variable reistance

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