Swapping front hubs for more caster?

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  • Mr.Crossfire
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Feb 2006
    • 145
    • Country: Finland

    #121
    Yeah, roughly a centimeter. Doesn't feel bad driving it at least. I have few of those available still, I must check. Of course if I can have another batch made with the same price, then there will be plenty.

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    • stiglet
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Aug 2007
      • 1264
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #122
      I have some very low ET wheels normally, which essentially gives the same effect with the scrub radius and the feel is much better. Off course, with these extenders i'll have to find some new wheels as the two combined would be waaaaaay too very much scrub radius

      But the extenders I use now are just a little too close to the brake disc for my liking so i'll be happy to swap them.

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      • G60Rallye
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Dec 2006
        • 1321
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #123
        Thought I might as well add this into here as it started off as a dicsussion about caster.

        If you had a blank slate to do any work to the shell how much caster would you try to get, and how far back would that mean moving the top mount? Did the works cars have it about right or would it be best to cut the inner arch and go even further back?

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        • my2000apb
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Jul 2010
          • 637
          • Country: United States

          #124
          the ones in my cq ( link in sig) are about 2" back and ~2" higher than stock 7-10 ish degrees with adjustable GC top mounts and more room for springs,dividers, helpers etc
          BEAST '90 CQ 24v VRT / O1E / v8 rear, HOLSET SUPER 40 http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=193#p37887
          DD '86 4kq BLAZE, swapping aba/16vT and O1E http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=201#p38264

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          • G60Rallye
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Dec 2006
            • 1321
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #125
            Nice job on the top mounts. Are they just about hitting the bonnet being that high? Are the top of the struts very close to the back of the arch?

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            • martinws
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Oct 2008
              • 917
              • Country: Scotland

              #126
              I put my car into Kenneth brown motor engineers to get set up. The guy used to look after Audi rally team cars at some point. He sujested cutting an offset circle out of my top mounts and spinning them to move the struts 10mm back at the top. This was to get my car perfect for fast road use. Probably not good for track use or for you guys with mad cars n more driving skill than me!

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              • my2000apb
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jul 2010
                • 637
                • Country: United States

                #127
                Originally posted by G60Rallye
                Nice job on the top mounts. Are they just about hitting the bonnet being that high? Are the top of the struts very close to the back of the arch?
                I had to trim the bottom of the hood a lot, but it looks unaltered with the hood closed
                only 2.5" coilover springs would fit that far back, not normal wide springs
                BEAST '90 CQ 24v VRT / O1E / v8 rear, HOLSET SUPER 40 http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=193#p37887
                DD '86 4kq BLAZE, swapping aba/16vT and O1E http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=201#p38264

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                • G60Rallye
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1321
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #128
                  I had expected the inner bonnet would need cut but would like to leave the outer unaltered. Good to hear that coilovers will fit in. I was looking at the inner arch wondering if it would be worth doing a bit of cutting to make even more room to go back? If you are getting 7-10 degrees of caster then that sounds about right. Anybody else have anything to add on how much caster they would run if they could?

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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #129
                    6-8 would be nice I think
                    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                    Indigo ABY coupé
                    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                    • my2000apb
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 637
                      • Country: United States

                      #130
                      and move the c-arm subframe pickups, inboard and upward, fix that roll center!!!
                      BEAST '90 CQ 24v VRT / O1E / v8 rear, HOLSET SUPER 40 http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=193#p37887
                      DD '86 4kq BLAZE, swapping aba/16vT and O1E http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=201#p38264

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                      • G60Rallye
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1321
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #131
                        Yes that will be sorted. Good to hear the caster can be done without having to cut the inner arch up.

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #132
                          Outside the box but with your skills Hamish you could tube the front end and go double wishbone? Also as you are going to be LHD you could use a conventional type rack, maybe a TT EPAS item mounted at the subframe.
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • G60Rallye
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1321
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #133
                            Would prefer to stick with the single wishbone set up as I am trying to stay away from it being a spaceframe. Once you go down huge chassis changes it means you cant run at a lot of events. I think a properly set up macpherson strut set up can work perfectly well. Just got to look at the wrc cars for that!

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                            • Error404
                              Super Moderator
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 19789
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #134
                              Very true
                              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                              Indigo ABY coupé
                              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                              • x6rs
                                S2Forum Enthusiast
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 134
                                • Country: Sweden

                                #135
                                Do mr crossfire still make the extenders? Can you weld them? Thinking of Welding them togheter With the hubs for more rigidity, i would really like to get 2 pairs for My urquattro With s2 suspension.
                                Are there other ways of extending the balljoint?

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