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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    They don't all have cast wishbones... Many S2s didn't get them despite the 1BE suspension option.

    If fitting cast wishbones, you must ensure you get the later spec ball joints as they are more offset and give more castor.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • Vorsprung durch Technik
      S2Forum Freak
      • Jun 2007
      • 4754
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Well mine having the cast wishbones i certainly had no complaints with them at all and i am quite fussy. Brilliant set up for our roads.

      Those later ball joints your talking about.....later speck ones, can you point out which ones as i am doing a 5 stud conversion using S2 hub with cast wishbones on a 2.6 80 avant.Cheers.
      96 URS6 plus speck saloon
      96 URS6 plus speck estate
      94 2.6 80 Avant
      99 2.8 final edition Cabriolet

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Sure. TRW (OE supplier) do them. JB318 and JB116.
        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • Vorsprung durch Technik
          S2Forum Freak
          • Jun 2007
          • 4754
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Thanks!
          96 URS6 plus speck saloon
          96 URS6 plus speck estate
          94 2.6 80 Avant
          99 2.8 final edition Cabriolet

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          • Mcstiff
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Oct 2004
            • 504
            • Country: United States

            #20
            Arn't they forged wishbones?
            1995 1PissedOff90sigpic1991 USDM CQ 7aT

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            • Rusty
              Super Moderator
              • Jun 2004
              • 18953
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              I think they are We're referring to the same part though, rather than a different type.
              Cheers'en, AndyC
              1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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              • John.
                S2Forum Fiend
                • May 2012
                • 2615
                • Country: Scotland

                #22
                Originally posted by Rusty
                Sure. TRW (OE supplier) do them. JB318 and JB116.
                I too am about to fit cast/forged(?!) lower arms to my B3CQ(7A). Do you know if the above TRW joints will suit the B3 hub carrier?
                Many thanks.
                John.

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                • bilko0795
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 1883
                  • Country: Wales

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Rusty
                  18s will make this worse...

                  Most comfy setup is OE or do DIY coilovers with Konis and some low rate, progressive springs, so you can drop it and keep comfort but protect from bottoming out. Tonks does some balloon springs that are less harsh than KWs.

                  You know this by now but Poly bushes were not the way to go for comfort, nor were solid mounts... got to build a car for what you're using it for
                  You are so right i only did all this from advice on here i wanted a car for a bit of spirited driving now and again around the beacons but because i drive lorries for a living when the w/end comes iv had enough so the wife drives me around

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                  • Nuvo
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3825

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mcstiff
                    Arn't they forged wishbones?
                    They are indeed.

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                    • damomcgrath
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 196
                      • Country: Ireland

                      #25
                      Originally posted by macspring
                      oem bushes - definitely for our roads,

                      RS2 front arb & rear Neuspeed arb - assuming B4 Avant.

                      or whiteline rarb if it's a B4 Coupe.

                      Wouldn't fuss about cast or forged wishbones.

                      Haven't quite forgotten about the front seats, but haven't taken the photos yet.



                      no panic with the seats david, going to concentrate on the underneath for the time being,ive an n.c.t. in 3 weeks times aswel so i want to refurb the front suspension then concentrate on the rear,ive 2 rear bilsteins already to go on the car so im going to stick with them and buy 2 new front ones and get oe springs,do u know where i could source these by any chance..also are these wishbones and balljoints any good

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                      also thanks to everyone else for the advice

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                      • S2 EDS
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 578
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        Ray,

                        Very simple - KW Version 1's - that's what I have - better than H & R for comfort and better handling IMO.

                        Speak with Danny at www.dnaautocare.co.uk. he should be able to do you a good deal on price and fitting. PM if you want more details.

                        Ed
                        4 Rings Rule.......Everytime

                        1984 80 Quattro B2 - Project Car
                        1996 S2 - ABY 6 Speed - Pride and joy
                        2003 A2 TDI - Economy

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                        • Rusty
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Fitting something with springs twice as stiff as stock is not going to solve you're issue and having been in both there's virtually no difference in ride quality HnRs to KWs.

                          Stick with stock springs and 16 or 17s for comfort or you'll spend well over £1000 and be back on here just as disappointed and with no dough in the piggy bank...
                          Cheers'en, AndyC
                          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                          • newsh
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 16226
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Stock springs and Koni sport adjustables work well on a coupe for rough roads, I've been running this for years now and it works pretty well. I think the adjustment is 1 turn from soft on the front and 1/2 a turn from soft on the rear.

                            S2 Coupe 3B Project


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                            • S2 EDS
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 578
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Ray, If sticking with 18"s and you did go for KW v1's - they are adjustable - I have mine set to fast road, you could always go for comfort.
                              4 Rings Rule.......Everytime

                              1984 80 Quattro B2 - Project Car
                              1996 S2 - ABY 6 Speed - Pride and joy
                              2003 A2 TDI - Economy

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                              • K Simmonds
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 7627
                                • Country: Wales

                                #30
                                I drive the same sort of roads as you Ray and I'm finally happy with mine after a year of mucking about swapping suspension components.

                                I've ended up on stock springs in combination with Bilstein front & Sachs rear dampers along with stock top mounts.

                                I had solid alloy subframe bushes which I swapped for Superflex poly items and that made a world of difference in regard to harshness, that job can be done without taking the subframes off the car, takes an hour to do though by rights one needs to get the alignment done afterwards.

                                I run poly wishbone and ARB bushes back and front which have been on the car since I got it and I have no complaints about them, I have a Whiteline rear ARB on the firmest setting along with an RS2 front ARB.

                                I have three sets of wheels, two X 17" one set with 215/45's trackday rubber and the other with 225/45's & Toyo T1R's as well as the stock 16" rims with Goodyear all season tyres which are currently on the car. It feels good on them all but the 16's are far and away the most comfortable, the ride is excellent with them fitted I can really chuck the car about on rough surfaces. Obviously I'd use the 17 inch wheels for track driving and I'll probably run them through the summer month's.

                                Overall I think that's a nice set up for fast A and B road driving.
                                Last edited by K Simmonds; 31 January 2015, 10:51. Reason: More info
                                1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                                1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                                1994 MTM RS2.
                                1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                                2000 B5 TQS.

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