034 flywheel on ABY S2

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  • Faheemo
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Feb 2005
    • 544
    • Country: South Africa

    #1

    034 flywheel on ABY S2

    Hi ther Guys

    I've got myself a lightened flywheel from Javad , and fitted it onto my ABY without removing the spacer on the gearbox.

    I believe the spacer needed to be removed.
    Is ther any way to make the clutch slave work without dropping the Box again ?

    Faheemo

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  • Billman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2004
    • 4129

    #2
    You must use the 3B Clutch with this Flywheel.
    Go Holset or Go RS4

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    • Faheemo
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Feb 2005
      • 544
      • Country: South Africa

      #3
      I'm using a Spec Clutch.
      Any Ideas on the slave unit ?

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      • ~Delta
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Apr 2005
        • 797

        #4
        Box has to come off, I'm afraid. The distance the slave cylinder pushrod will have to travel to actuate the release arm is too great. You won't be able to bleed the system properly.

        I made the same mistake in '98, fitting a 6 speed box in an S2-engined Coupe quattro type 85, using a 3B flywheel with the engine-to-transmission spacer in place. It just wouldn't bleed. Eventually, I managed to get some clutch actuation, till the pushrod fell into the transmission.

        Gearbox had to be removed to rectify the problem.
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        • Billman
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2004
          • 4129

          #5
          Yes i dint read it. You must remove the Spacer.
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          • pastures16
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Nov 2004
            • 2058
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            cant you extend the pushrod just a thought
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            • Faheemo
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Feb 2005
              • 544
              • Country: South Africa

              #7
              Yep been trying to get a longer pushrod, Cant Seem to find a push rod that fits.
              Maybe i gotta make one up.

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              • Mihnea
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jul 2003
                • 1288
                • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                #8
                Measure the thickness of the spacer in between the engine and the box, then make a new slave cylinder pushrod that's exactly that much longer. Should work, but it's not a perfect idea (BTDT), but at least it'll save you from pulling the box again.

                Mihnea
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                • Faheemo
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 544
                  • Country: South Africa

                  #9
                  Anything but pulling out that bloody Box !!
                  Thanks guys

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                  • Faheemo
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 544
                    • Country: South Africa

                    #10
                    Made a longer Pushrod and fitted it in today, Problem i get now is that the Clutch pedal travels fully but wont return.
                    If the clutch travels 50% then it returns ok.
                    I used a 10cm rod , thats bout 9mm more than what it should be (original length + spacer) cause the shorter rods i tried kept comming loose and falling off.
                    Any ideas why i not getting return on the pedal ?

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                    • Mihnea
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1288
                      • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      is your clutch slave cylinder bled properly???
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                      • GT500
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 2181
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        The release arm will be going over centre.

                        How about remove all bell housing bolts, slide box back a little, out with a drill. use drill to cut through spacer, should come out in two or three pieces....
                        Rob..
                        94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                        87 UR 20v ABY
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                        • Faheemo
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 544
                          • Country: South Africa

                          #13
                          Yep, bled the Slave out twice to make sure..
                          Giving it some time for any airbubbles to cum up but doesnt seem to help.

                          Maybe cause i got extra 9mm on the pushrod its not returning like it should.
                          I will try again with correct length push rod, else the box comes off again.

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                          • GT500
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 2181
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            CAn you not read???????????????

                            The release arm only works through a small radius.. you are trying to make it work past its limit..
                            Rob..
                            94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                            87 UR 20v ABY
                            97 S6 Avant
                            96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                            1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                            • Faheemo
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 544
                              • Country: South Africa

                              #15
                              OK - Read this !!
                              I tried the correct Length Pushrod (Original 84mm + 8mm Spacer thickness = 92mm) this did not get the pressure plate seperating from clutch.
                              Then i tried a 96mm Pushrod - this gave me seperation but not enough and poor return of pedal.
                              Thus i moved onto a 100mm pushrod - this got the seperation ok but pedal dosent return.

                              All the time bleeding the system.

                              Anyone know the total height of a 034 SPec flywheel and clutch package ?

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