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  • How much bhp/torque can 3b gearbox handle?

    How much bhp/torque can a standard audi s2 ½991 3b coupe handle?

    Can it handle 310 bhp and 410 NM?

    Cuz I'am not sure if mine is actually strengthent, perhaps it is just standard...

    /Jonas
    Sleeper S2 Avant +450

    A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

    Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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    Re: How much bhp/torque can 3b gearbox handle?

    Originally posted by Jonas_R
    Can it handle 310 bhp and 410 NM?
    Definately
    S2 Avant......fully loaded :rock: :bow: Slipper Wagons Rule !!!!!

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    • #3
      Is that a definately that the gearbox can handle 310 BHP and 420 NM? Or did you mean the car itself. I Think I expressed myself badly in the first post. Because I was refering to the gearbox.

      Is a late S2 ABY 6 Speed gearbox an easy fit?

      /Jonas
      Sleeper S2 Avant +450

      A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

      Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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      • #4
        no need to change the box, yours is plenty strong enough.
        Greg

        S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

        '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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        • #5
          It should be fine at that power. Just dont drive hard in first!! You will destroy the input shaft bearing. Been there done that. Im on my second re-con box! But i am running higher output than you
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          Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
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          • #6
            Is their anyways that one can strengthen the first gear?

            When i floor it in first it never reaches full boost, just around 0.9 bar ... But it was not my first gear that died but the 4th So i guess i will just have my gearbox repaired....

            Thx

            /Jonas
            Sleeper S2 Avant +450

            A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

            Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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            • #7
              i am running 390hp and 580Nm on my 5speed box
              ABT C5 Lord Of The Rings
              2004 1/4 Mile ET 12.00 191Km/h @1,5Bar
              2009 1/4 Mile ET 11.92 213Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437WHp
              2010 1/4 Mile ET 11.45 110Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437Whp
              kostic.nu

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              • #8
                Nothing can be done with the gearbox to make it stronger without having special casings made and larger bearings put in. Sounds like the syncro went in your box. Thats very common on the 5 speed box, my first box lost 2nd and 3rd gear syncros.

                Mine makes about 1.4-1.5 bar in first so i have to take it carefully.
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                Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                Audi UR Quattro
                Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                • #9
                  Well that sound great...

                  Cuz my monday started out pretty bad....

                  to parking ticket, a speeding ticket, a broken 4th gear, then my x-garage called and say that could swap the gearbox for 3000 euro (a new one)... Well kinda say bay bay to them and found a repair service that would repair the gearbox for 500 Euro...

                  But damn that was a bad monday... :/

                  And thx again guys...

                  /Jonas
                  Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                  A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                  Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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                  • #10
                    usually because of the load sites in your ECU map you wont get full boost in first few gears.

                    If you did this in say 4th or 5th you will get full boost, not saying pull away in 4th btw.

                    Greg
                    Greg

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                    '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                    • #11
                      Not quite getting that greg, what are you refering to?

                      /Jonas
                      Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                      A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                      Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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                      • #12
                        Mihne can probably explain better than me.

                        But in your ECU its has tables that it uses to decide how much boost fuel etc that you can have.

                        in 1st, 2nd gear etc its not putting lots of load on the engine so it refers to that part of the ECU map. Normally this doesnt use huge amoutns of boost.

                        as more loads is put on engine, e.g. flooring throttle in 4th doing 4mph will have a higher loading on engine because of the gearing of 4th gear. In this situation the ECU recognises this and will give more boost.

                        Greg
                        Greg

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                        '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                        • #13
                          flooring throttle in 4th doing 4mph will have a higher loading on engine because of the gearing of 4th gear. In this situation the ECU recognises this and will give more boost.
                          :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

                          I hope you ment 40mph, cause a by-product of higher gears at
                          low speeds is carbon build up on cylinder heads and valves.ops:
                          Not an easything to get rid off and valves might not shut properly:mad:
                          RS2 MTM

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                          • #14
                            6 speed box is stronger than 5 speed, 6 speed is based on original 016 5 speed unit used in type 85 inc. ur quattro, type 44 inc. all 200 turbos and pre '88 100 quattros. The 016 box in my type 85 Coupe quattro took a lot of abuse with 3B 2.5L. This was 426PS and 411.3 lbs/ft. Although I am using a matching 6 speed box with my RS4 engine, I do wonder if I wouldn't be better off using the good old 016 5 speed - problem is the bellhousing doesn't have enough holes to accommodate the Biturbo V6 engine... If you have access to a 6 speed unit, use it, or even better, an 016 unit if you're not bothered about losing your torsen centre diff.
                            HTH

                            Siena

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Vagsport
                              6 speed box is stronger than 5 speed, 6 speed is based on original 016 5 speed unit used in type 85 inc. ur quattro, type 44 inc. all 200 turbos and pre '88 100 quattros. The 016 box in my type 85 Coupe quattro took a lot of abuse with 3B 2.5L. This was 426PS and 411.3 lbs/ft. Although I am using a matching 6 speed box with my RS4 engine, I do wonder if I wouldn't be better off using the good old 016 5 speed - problem is the bellhousing doesn't have enough holes to accommodate the Biturbo V6 engine... If you have access to a 6 speed unit, use it, or even better, an 016 unit if you're not bothered about losing your torsen centre diff.
                              HTH

                              Siena
                              What do you mean by loosing my centre diff? Will it fit perfectly or what?

                              /Jonas
                              Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                              A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                              Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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