Stripping an 01E gearbox

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  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
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    • Country: England

    #1

    Stripping an 01E gearbox

    I have a spare CBL gearbox for my UrS4 which I want to fit because 1st is very noisy on the original. The problem is I don't really know any history of the spare, so I want to strip it and see it there is any evidence of damage to 1st gear like this



    I've never stripped a gearbox before so I'm looking for any tips, I dont want to get it to a stage where I can't get it back together!
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  • S2central.net
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    • Jul 2003
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    #2
    The manual for the 01E is on-line for cheap at erwin - the official audi source. I have it here on paper but its hundreds of pages. Any time I have skimmed it, I am amazed at the continual references to umpteen special tools, drifts, pullers, shims etc etc and it would be a brave lad that ventured in there without some experienced eyeballs helping you along.

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    • Technogym
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      • Dec 2004
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      #3
      is this another manual than found within elsawin Paul?

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      • Fat Audi 80
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        • Jan 2004
        • 10547
        • Country: England

        #4
        AFAIK gearbox rebuilding is a specialist activity, as Paul rightly points out, lots of special tools required etc. By all means go for it, but I don't expect many people on here will be able to offer much advice apart from the above.

        Cheers,

        Steve.
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        • pixsaudisex2
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          • Sep 2004
          • 3110

          #5
          ive done one but yep you need puller after puller after press after press but gearboxes arent as bad as people think to take apart its just so important you know where what goes were and what way around and it really is just how carefull you are .
          O and you also need to know what to look for. I must do a thread on here for all you lovely people.

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          • AndyP
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            • Feb 2004
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            #6
            Originally posted by pixsaudisex2
            ive done one but yep you need puller after puller after press after press but gearboxes arent as bad as people think to take apart its just so important you know where what goes were and what way around and it really is just how carefull you are .
            O and you also need to know what to look for. I must do a thread on here for all you lovely people.
            I know about all the special tools required, but could I get the box apart to inspect 1st gear without any of the tools?
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            • BRY
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              • Nov 2004
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              #7
              Why not fit the spare one and take the crunchy one to bits?
              Then if you break it, you can send it to a "professional" who can then charge you for it.
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              • AndyP
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                • Feb 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by BRY
                Why not fit the spare one and take the crunchy one to bits?
                Then if you break it, you can send it to a "professional" who can then charge you for it.
                But, as discussed earlier, professionals in this game are a bit thin on the ground
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                • BRY
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                  #9
                  CJ knows one
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                  • Audi Parts Guru
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by S2central.net
                    The manual for the 01E is on-line for cheap at erwin - the official audi source. I have it here on paper but its hundreds of pages. Any time I have skimmed it, I am amazed at the continual references to umpteen special tools, drifts, pullers, shims etc etc and it would be a brave lad that ventured in there without some experienced eyeballs helping you along.

                    Paul
                    Paul is right, attempting to strip and rebuild a gearbox like this will involve many specialists tools and a lot of knowledge.

                    As it happens, I used to build gearboxes myself, and I would only attempt this with the right tools and a decent sized work bench along with a very clean area to work in
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                    • Technogym
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                      • Dec 2004
                      • 200
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                      #11
                      Ok, now if you have some kind of mechanical skill and understand how a tranny works it wouldnt scare me to open one, I have seen a split GB on a workbench that wasent meant for assembly again, and its true its alot og parts You must have control of.
                      And of course the most important bit: A good manual and work instructoin. Other than that it would be to clen a big area for the parts and fire up the digital camera and take a picture for almost every screw You loosen, (have saved me alot of work)

                      When You guys mention alot of "special tools" do You mean so special that the tool is designed for only that tranny for one purpose, or are we talking standard pullers in various sizes?

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                      • Technogym
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                        • Dec 2004
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                        #12
                        F example do you have enough tools in the 1001 piece tool kit from Teng tools, (wich is on its way to my garage!)

                        Vegard

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                        • Graham
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                          • Jul 2003
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                          #13
                          eazigears in Thornaby, Teesside have over hauled plenty of 01E trannies and i have heard nowt but good reports about them
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