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  • 2226
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Mar 2008
    • 52
    • Country: South Africa

    #16
    Does it grind between 1st & 2nd at high revs? Is it not the clutch pressure plate on it's way out?
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    • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Sep 2008
      • 1041
      • Country: Italy

      #17
      Hello, yes I have this problem between 1st & 2nd at high revs.

      Alessio
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      • BIGGYIN
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        • Jun 2009
        • 47
        • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

        #18
        Originally posted by Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
        Is possible to find which CGR,s have the wide first gear or not? Thanks a lot!

        Alessio

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        • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Sep 2008
          • 1041
          • Country: Italy

          #19
          Thanks a lot!

          Alessio
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          • madpugger
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Sep 2007
            • 1901
            • Country: Scotland

            #20
            This problem is likely your syncromesh for 2nd gear. You could risk a second hand box and hope it does not have the fault, or you could buy a new syncro, IIRC it will be a syncro with gear, and replace it.

            The problem is unlikely to be because you don't have the wide 1st IMO

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            • BIGGYIN
              S2Forum Buff
              • Jun 2009
              • 47
              • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

              #21
              Glad to help.
              Bought the manual,because someone on here was selling a damaged(cheap) CGR box.
              Got manual,contacted guy about box.GONE.
              Atleast someone,s got abit of use out of it.
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              • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Sep 2008
                • 1041
                • Country: Italy

                #22
                Originally posted by madpugger
                This problem is likely your syncromesh for 2nd gear. You could risk a second hand box and hope it does not have the fault, or you could buy a new syncro, IIRC it will be a syncro with gear, and replace it.

                The problem is unlikely to be because you don't have the wide 1st IMO
                Hello, I have already another gearbox, but I don't know if have the same problem or not, can I find the original syncro from Audi dealer?

                I think that the problem can't be the pressure plate, because I have this problem only when I go up very fast from 1st gear to 2nd gear and the engine run at high rpm.

                Alessio
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                • madpugger
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1901
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #23
                  Audi should be able to sell you a syncro yes. It will not be the pressure plate you are correct.

                  The syncromesh - Basically when you are in 1st the engine and gearbox input shaft are doing a set speed to do that road speed. When you want to change up to 2nd, doing the same road speed, the input shaft need to turn slower. When you press the clutch to change gear the input shaft doesn't slow down in the 0.5 of a second it takes you to change So the syncro does what the name says, it sycronises the speed of the two cogs so the can mesh together. It is basically like a clutch for the individual gears. It is usually 2nd gear that goes because this is normally where you are trying to quickly change gears thus putting more wear on the gears.

                  I hope that helps you!

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                  • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1041
                    • Country: Italy

                    #24
                    Hello, please can you post it the codes of the parts that I must change for resolve the problem?
                    Is only 012 311 247 F synchronizer ring or is 01E 311 239H synchronizer body?
                    Thanks a lot!
                    Bye

                    Alessio
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                    • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1041
                      • Country: Italy

                      #25
                      Hello, please someone can tell me if for resolve my problem I must change only 012 311 247 F synchronizer ring or I must change 01E 311 239 H synchronizer body?

                      Thanks a lot!

                      Bye

                      Alessio
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                      • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1041
                        • Country: Italy

                        #26
                        Hello friends, is possible to change 6 speed ABY linkage with the gearox mount on the car or not?
                        Thanks a lot!
                        Bye

                        Alessio
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                        • AndyP
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                          • Feb 2004
                          • 6049
                          • Country: England

                          #27
                          Yes
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                          • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1041
                            • Country: Italy

                            #28
                            Thanks a lot Andy!

                            For resolve my problem I must change only 012 311 247 F synchronizer ring or I must change 01E 311 239 H synchronizer body?

                            Thanks!

                            Alessio
                            Last edited by Audi-Porsche Avant RS2; 9 July 2010, 10:56.
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                            • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1041
                              • Country: Italy

                              #29
                              UP

                              For resolve my problem I must change only 012 311 247 F synchronizer ring or I must change 01E 311 239 H synchronizer body?

                              This week I will open the gearbox

                              Thanks a lot friends!

                              Alessio
                              My life and my loves

                              Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
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                              • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1041
                                • Country: Italy

                                #30
                                I pay who help me with this issue
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