gearbox swap CGR to CBL

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  • s2spike
    S2Forum Addict
    • Jun 2008
    • 227
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    gearbox swap CGR to CBL

    Question time guys,

    is the gearbox from a 1997 urs6 with code CBL ok to put in my 1995 coupe code CGR.

    My coupe has a noisy and notchy 1st and I have the s6 box as a spare.

    1, are the ratios the same.

    2, are the parts that are s2 specific interchangeable with the s6 box,

    3, AAN dual mass or ABY, I have the AAN flywheel and am going to purchase a clutch, do I ditch the spacer and go with the AAN or stick with stock (350-380hp goal).

    any btdt's cant seem to find any.

    Cheers

    Andy.
    ruby red, aby coupe
  • spyros80
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Sep 2008
    • 61
    • Country: Greece

    #2
    Why dont you put the CRB from the RS2. It is better

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    • Zoig
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Sep 2008
      • 555
      • Country: Estonia

      #3
      Originally posted by spyros80
      Why dont you put the CRB from the RS2. It is better
      Better how?

      1997 S6 and RS2 should both have flexible mainshaft + wide 1st gear, all gear ratios are identical.

      CGR->CBL 6th gear ratio changes from 0.71 to 0.73, rest of it should be identical. Small enough difference, so i would not be bothered by it.

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      • martinjs
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Jul 2003
        • 3205
        • Country: England

        #4
        Originally posted by Zoig
        Better how?

        1997 S6 and RS2 should both have flexible mainshaft + wide 1st gear, all gear ratios are identical.

        CGR->CBL 6th gear ratio changes from 0.71 to 0.73, rest of it should be identical. Small enough difference, so i would not be bothered by it.
        Agreed, late S6's have wide first gear and flexible shaft like the CRB and late CGR's.

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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          Originally posted by martinjs
          Agreed, late S6's have wide first gear and flexible shaft like the CRB and late CGR's.
          I wouldn't be so sure about that (105J = wide, not flexible; 105H = wide and flexible) as per this info for a 1997 UrS6 (S6plus DGU got the 105H) Make sure that you check the transmission code before assuming what is inside.

          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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          • martinjs
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Jul 2003
            • 3205
            • Country: England

            #6
            Not assuming, just what ive read in the past, anyway answering the OP's question, yes.

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            • fluk3
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Mar 2008
              • 146
              • Home: Denmark

              #7
              is there an easy way to see if it is a CBL gear box with wide, not flexible or wide and flexible

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              • UrS4boy
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Feb 2006
                • 11859
                • Country: Canada

                #8
                Flexible first gear shaft info

                Originally posted by martinjs
                Agreed, late S6's have wide first gear and flexible shaft like the CRB and late CGR's.
                The late (97) UrS transmission codes are DPG (5spd with 0.76:1 (28/37) 5 th) and DPH (6 spd with 0.73:1 6th). Both have the 01E311105J main shaft (with integral 1st gear) (with the "J" being the key point). The 105J mainshaft has the wider first gear but it is NOT flexible. The flexible mainshaft with the wider first gear is the 01E311105H, the main shaft in the CRB from the RS2 and a few others.

                As an interesting note, when you cross-reference the 01E311105J wider first gear/non-flexible mainshaft, it pulls up many of our UrS cars but ALSO the RS4. Apparently Audi didn't think the flexible shaft was necessary for 450 hp.

                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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