ideas dsg-box in urquattro

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  • x6rs
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Dec 2010
    • 134
    • Country: Sweden

    #1

    ideas dsg-box in urquattro

    im building a urquattro for 4wd drifting right now, aiming at 800hp, im going to use a 01e 6spd box for now, but it would be cool to use a dsg-box later, is there any box from maybe rs5 or something that can handle the torque or be rebuilt to handle all the torque from my engine? im guessing that the flange of the dsg(or is it s-tronic?) from one of the longitual mounted boxes is the same as 01e, fitting a dsg box purely fysical would probably be the easiest of the operations, guessing that it will be harder to tune the box and make it compable with my nira ecu is the big problem.

    it would be supernice to have full-boost all the time during gearchanges and would be easier to change gears when drifting, instead of hitting the revlimit all the time just shift gears without any turbolag crazy idea maybe, but someones got to try right?
  • re2500
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2007
    • 2185
    • Country: Wales

    #2
    Interesting idea, im guessing the electronics will be the hard bit! Good luck!
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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Don't the DSG boxes talk to the OEM ecu? think that's the biggest issue don't know how easily that can be overcome. Need some serious schematics!

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      • x6rs
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Dec 2010
        • 134
        • Country: Sweden

        #4
        yea i guess it will, right now im still in the is-it-possible stage, if there is a gearbox strong enough.. ive heard about a guy in my town with a turboed golf with dsg, from what ive heard it has around 540hp, so if theres a box in a golf that handles decent power, audi must have a strong gearbox too..

        electronics will be a hard nut to crack but im goin g to try to talk to the guy in the golf, 540hp from a former na-engine,i guess cant use the org ecu so he must have fixed it somehow..

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        • x6rs
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          • Dec 2010
          • 134
          • Country: Sweden

          #5
          oem ecu i meant, thinking in swedish and writing english isnt so easy

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          • terrybullwon
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            • Mar 2006
            • 8782
            • Country: England

            #6
            Dont bother it wont last.

            Contact Kai at KRB and get a fully sequential 01E for less than 10,000 euros
            Chef

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            • x6rs
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              • Dec 2010
              • 134
              • Country: Sweden

              #7
              too much torque i guess?

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              • re2500
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                • May 2007
                • 2185
                • Country: Wales

                #8
                What box is in the V10 bi-turbo RS6? Is that DSG?
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                03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

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                • terrybullwon
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                  • Mar 2006
                  • 8782
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Originally posted by x6rs
                  too much torque i guess?
                  There just really not built for it.

                  Maybe something from a Audi R8 but then your better off buying the KRB one
                  Chef

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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    AFAIK the DSG ECU is intrinsically linked to the engine ECU(s). As James said, surely a sequetial dog-box is the way to go?
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                    • x6rs
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 134
                      • Country: Sweden

                      #11
                      yea sure it would be much easier just to throw in a seq 01e, but it would be nice to have paddles on the steering wheel and not loose any bust at all during gearchanges, why use a seq box when an oem 01e with a shortshift kit works good too?

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                      • x6rs
                        S2Forum Enthusiast
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 134
                        • Country: Sweden

                        #12
                        again, my writing sucks, boost not bust

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                        • Vauhtiveikko
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                          • Jun 2010
                          • 250
                          • Country: Finland

                          #13
                          Originally posted by re2500
                          What box is in the V10 bi-turbo RS6? Is that DSG?
                          It is actually a prepped but old school six-speed tiptronic (09E) in the RS6
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                          • terrybullwon
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 8782
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Originally posted by x6rs
                            yea sure it would be much easier just to throw in a seq 01e, but it would be nice to have paddles on the steering wheel and not loose any bust at all during gearchanges, why use a seq box when an oem 01e with a shortshift kit works good too?
                            It would be a barrel box so just up or down shifts no H and you could buy a paddle kit if you really wanted.

                            I am afraid there is not cheap or cheats way of doing this trust me I have looked. I went with the KRB box
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                            • Error404
                              Super Moderator
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 19789
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Originally posted by x6rs
                              yea sure it would be much easier just to throw in a seq 01e, but it would be nice to have paddles on the steering wheel and not loose any bust at all during gearchanges, why use a seq box when an oem 01e with a shortshift kit works good too?
                              I think it would be reasonably easy to set up some paddles to trigger a shift solenoid on a sequential box. Then you could just get the ECU mapped with flat-shift trigger
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