can I put a b4 lockable rear diff into a b5 quattro

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  • s2_wot
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Aug 2006
    • 2178

    #1

    can I put a b4 lockable rear diff into a b5 quattro

    I have a '98 b5 avant quattro tdi with the 5 speed gearbox and afn engine. The rear subframe and diff arrangement looks almost identical to the s2 avant setup. It's taken me a full day to change the subframe which was cracked.

    Can I put a lockable diff in there?
    If so which one would have the correct ratios?
    How would I make it work?
    Would I need to change the driveshafts and in that case which ones would work?
    Any other input welcome.

    Thanks in advance.
    Shane
  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    What are the codes for the transmission and rear diff, like the CEP on this 93 100 avant tdi build tag:

    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • s2_wot
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Aug 2006
      • 2178

      #3
      I'm not with the car at the moment so I'll have to come back to you on that one, thanks.
      Shane

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        b5 and s2 avant rear end is the same for subframe and diff mounts

        I believe the diffs are different though

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        • caterpillar
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jun 2004
          • 2480

          #5
          but v8 thorsen may fit in

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          • Mcstiff
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Oct 2004
            • 504
            • Country: United States

            #6
            I'd guess that you could make it fit but the prop shaft may not be compatible.
            1995 1PissedOff90sigpic1991 USDM CQ 7aT

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            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #7
              Originally posted by caterpillar
              but v8 thorsen may fit in
              THORSEN? That must be the Danish version of the TorSen (Torque-Sensing) rear diff?

              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • caterpillar
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jun 2004
                • 2480

                #8
                sorry;really bad writing...

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                • turbofan
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                  • May 2008
                  • 30
                  • Country: Latvia

                  #9
                  Black S2 Avant
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                  • newsh
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16226
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by UrS4boy
                    THORSEN? That must be the Danish version of the TorSen (Torque-Sensing) rear diff?

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen
                    No thats Thorson as in "Son of Thor" its a sort of Nordic Freudian slip

                    S2 Coupe 3B Project


                    Ur quattro restoration

                    S2 Avant

                    Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                    • quattrostyle
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6229
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #11
                      Originally posted by newsh
                      No thats Thorson as in "Son of Thor" its a sort of Nordic Freudian slip
                      Classic!

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                      • s2_wot
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2178

                        #12
                        My diff code from the build specification is "DAJ" indicating 35:9

                        The cost of the V8 Torsen LSD seems a bit high for this little experiment. How would it perform in a diesel daily driver?
                        Last edited by s2_wot; 8 May 2012, 11:01.
                        Shane

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                        • s2_wot
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2178

                          #13












                          A few photos, could anybody confirm similarities between this and the s2 item?

                          The S2/RS2 has a different ratio 37:9 iirc, however there was a 35:9 ratio used within the audi 80 range.

                          Could my existing diff be converted to locking by using some parts from an S2/RS2 diff?

                          Or could anybody advise which audi 80 quattro had a 35:9 ratio?
                          Shane

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                          • andy10v
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5996
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #14
                            CQ, S2, 90q are 4.11, v6 b4 80 quattro is 3.89, might be the answer.



                            "MEGA GEAR RATIO THREAD" on motorgeek might point you in the right direction (just remember they had B4 90s (same as our B4 80s)

                            well, I been thinkin it's time to start an archive of our own on gear ratios, so tonight I'll do this with the assistance (ok, more like I'm layin out the numbers after Richard finds em' for me) of our very own Billzcat1 *points to Richard and Richard bows* and our good friend ETKA *crowd goes...
                            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                            Sold ABY-stock

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                            • caterpillar
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 2480

                              #15
                              do not se the lock unit will fit this rear end, from the parts from audi 80/90/s2.. so the easiest will be the scrapyard audi v8 rear end part , torsen unit (88-93)

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