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  • pasbogdan
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2009
    • 1160
    • Country: Romania

    #16
    Originally posted by quattrostyle
    Since we are talking about diffs now I take this opportunity to discuss the V8 diff option. I'm pretty sure it has been done before but I am a tad lazy.

    I got a S2 5-speed gearbox and diff, what is the real advantage/ reason I would want a V8 rear diff?
    The open needs more grip to one end to get traction at the other output.The torsen concept gets traction with less amount of grip(resistance)at one end.Or it reacts slowly compared to open and it is not spinning only the wheel with no grip instantly.

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    • Rocco
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Aug 2007
      • 6393
      • Country: Spain

      #17
      I had a rear Torsen diff and never felt any difference

      But to be honest I never went to the limits with the 575hp on road curves...
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      • DamoM
        S2Forum Addict
        • Feb 2005
        • 352
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        On my standard S2 diff on circuit the car would sometimes spin a inside rear wheel under power whereas now I have more power but it doesn't so it. Given my understanding of what the guys have explained here, I would have thought that as the wheel starts to spin (but still has some resistance), the power gets fed to the outside wheel.

        or I could still not be getting it!
        *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
        *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
        *1991 RR 20v quattro
        *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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        • Ross
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Aug 2005
          • 3399
          • Country: England

          #19
          Expect you're spinning up both inside wheels... With my 428hp coupe I found I'd get wheel spin on the front left off a favourite roundabout, you'd feel the diff push power to the back and she's just bite in and go.

          In the wet both inside wheels would slip and it was hard to get the power down. Thats where a Torsten rear diff would have helped. As the corner opened out the car would start to grip and power moved to the rear as the inside got traction, more you get the power down at the back the more it would take - felt a bit RWD.
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          • jade
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jan 2005
            • 1811
            • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

            #20
            Originally posted by pasbogdan
            What diff is open?
            normally the front and back Open
            Last edited by jade; 23 October 2013, 16:49.
            RS 2 580HP

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            • quattrostyle
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Oct 2006
              • 6229
              • Country: Netherlands

              #21
              Okay cool, sounds like it's worth the upgrade then. Will get my hands on one

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              • DamoM
                S2Forum Addict
                • Feb 2005
                • 352
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Originally posted by quattrostyle
                Okay cool, sounds like it's worth the upgrade then. Will get my hands on one
                They are rare as hens teeth! Quite difficult to fit also, more than a little machining but worth it.
                *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                *1991 RR 20v quattro
                *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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                • DamoM
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 352
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ross
                  Expect you're spinning up both inside wheels... With my 428hp coupe I found I'd get wheel spin on the front left off a favourite roundabout, you'd feel the diff push power to the back and she's just bite in and go.

                  In the wet both inside wheels would slip and it was hard to get the power down. Thats where a Torsten rear diff would have helped. As the corner opened out the car would start to grip and power moved to the rear as the inside got traction, more you get the power down at the back the more it would take - felt a bit RWD.
                  Yeah that just about sums it up nicely. She just hunkers down at the rear and goes nose up!!
                  *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                  *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                  *1991 RR 20v quattro
                  *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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                  • Zoig
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 555
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #24
                    Just FYI, the Torsen Rear diff from V8 is a lot weaker then the original Diff, many of them have been killed because of that (WOT when one of the rears is on loose surface and other on tarmac or drag launches).

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                    • quattrostyle
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6229
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #25
                      Originally posted by DamoM
                      They are rare as hens teeth! Quite difficult to fit also, more than a little machining but worth it.
                      Thought there would be no machining involved with the swap really?

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                      • DamoM
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 352
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Originally posted by quattrostyle
                        Thought there would be no machining involved with the swap really?
                        So did I but sadly there was...
                        *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                        *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                        *1991 RR 20v quattro
                        *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Fits right into a Type 89 diff
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • andy10v
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5996
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #28
                            Originally posted by DamoM
                            So did I but sadly there was...
                            What car was the diff casing from?
                            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                            Sold ABY-stock

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                            • DamoM
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 352
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              [QUOTE=Error404;752746A haFits right into a Type 89 diff [/QUOTE]

                              I know it's annoying!
                              *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                              *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                              *1991 RR 20v quattro
                              *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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                              • DamoM
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 352
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Originally posted by andy10v
                                What car was the diff casing from?
                                It was from an S2.
                                *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                                *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                                *1991 RR 20v quattro
                                *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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