B4 Quattro conversion. What parts I can use from B3 or B5 quattro?

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  • Kermps
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Oct 2011
    • 55
    • Country: Estonia

    #1

    B4 Quattro conversion. What parts I can use from B3 or B5 quattro?

    I have had my fwd B4 for 4 years. After I read that it is possible and quite easy to convert FWD into quattro I thought I should do it. But there are no B4 quattro parts or even body shells for sale in my country and I don't have 1000+ euro for a new car, so I thought maybe I can take something from B3 or B5 to convert my fwd B4 into quattro. In my country they always say sell your current and buy new one, but here people have built many of those and hopefully can help me with finding suitable parts.

    So I would like to know what parts I can take from B3 or B5 as there are a lot of B5 quattros for parts. All I know and found from forum is that I must take fuel tank from B4. Also read that B5 quattro rear end fits B4, but is it true? Diff looks quite different, but what about gearbox, propshaft, driveshafts, suspension and brakes?

    Any information about those parts compatibility is useful to me

    Currently having 2.0 8v engine, but in the future I would like to go for 1.8T.
    Last edited by Kermps; 9 December 2013, 14:28.
  • Val
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Apr 2008
    • 630
    • Country: Latvia

    #2
    If you don't have b4 coupe then forget about using parts from b3 in your conversion.
    5vtq gte

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    • Kermps
      S2Forum Fanatic
      • Oct 2011
      • 55
      • Country: Estonia

      #3
      Yeah, I forgot to mention that I have sedan.

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      • vag_nutter
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Sep 2009
        • 164
        • Country: New Zealand

        #4
        You can use a b5 quattro as a donor. The complete rear suspension and fuel tank, and also the gear box, not sure if the center drive shaft is the same.

        Probably easier to buy a quattro 80

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        • JMLAudi
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Dec 2009
          • 520
          • Home: South Africa Current: United Kingdom

          #5
          Hi


          Cant use a B5 quattro fiel tank........different shape
          Also rear hubs have a different hub offset than the B4 setup
          The rear wheels will stick out of the rear arches.......


          Just what I found out on parts swop over


          Cheers
          John

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          • vag_nutter
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Sep 2009
            • 164
            • Country: New Zealand

            #6
            Originally posted by JMLAudi
            Hi


            Cant use a B5 quattro fiel tank........different shape
            Also rear hubs have a different hub offset than the B4 setup
            The rear wheels will stick out of the rear arches.......


            Just what I found out on parts swop over


            Cheers
            John
            The tanks are the same, and the wheels will not stick out the arches, I swapped over b5 rear end when I did 5x112 conversion

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            • Kermps
              S2Forum Fanatic
              • Oct 2011
              • 55
              • Country: Estonia

              #7
              Originally posted by vag_nutter
              The tanks are the same, and the wheels will not stick out the arches, I swapped over b5 rear end when I did 5x112 conversion
              Are you sure about fuel tank? I found a thread where Acidburn wrote that B5 fuel tank won't fit B4, because the shape of a neck is a bit different. But if it fits, then I already have one offer for a B5 fuel tank.

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                B3 won't work, as it's a totally different design.
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • Kermps
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                  • Oct 2011
                  • 55
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #9
                  Thanks for replies

                  So far I know that I can use following parts from B5 Quattro:
                  *Gearbox
                  *Suspension
                  *Hubs and Brakes

                  What I must take from B4 Quattro:
                  *Fuel tank

                  But following parts still need more information or confirmation:
                  *Propshaft - Can I use B3, Coupe or B5 one instead of B4??
                  *Rear driveshafts - Are those all the same length on B3, Coupe, B4, B5??
                  *Rear diff - Can I take it from B3, Coupe or any other model??
                  *Rear subframe - Does B4 and B5 have the same one?

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                  • Mr.Crossfire
                    S2Forum Enthusiast
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 145
                    • Country: Finland

                    #10
                    Gearbox is the same 01a type in b3-b4-b5 if it has 5 speeds. Rear diff has a different housing in b3, so you can't use that. I'd guess your best option for propshaft would be b5, but can't confirm. From what I understand, the rear subframe is essentially the same in b4 & b5.

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                    • Kermps
                      S2Forum Fanatic
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 55
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #11
                      Thanks for the answer. So as I can take gearbox from B3 quattro too, then I only have to find one from b3, b4, b5 that fits 4 cyl engine.

                      I also used vagcat database and found that B4 and B5 have the same rear driveshafts: code is 8A0501203J/8A0501203JX
                      Rear subframe fits and code matches: 8D0505235C
                      Prop shaft codes doesn't match. Those are codes B3: 893521101 B4: 8A0521101F B5: 8D0521101 I guess there might be difference in lenght.

                      So now I have to find out more information about propshaft and diff. Everything else is sorted out for now.

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                      • andy10v
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 5996
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #12
                        Make sure the gearbox and diff final drive match, 3.89 or 4.11.
                        Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                        Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                        Sold ABY-stock

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                        • sergio
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                          • Jun 2013
                          • 113
                          • Country: Portugal

                          #13
                          Any update?
                          You have pm.

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                          • Gigi
                            S2Forum Hobbyist
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 13
                            • Country: Croatia

                            #14
                            Can B3 limo be converted from FWD to AWD, without cutting anyting, just bolt on diff and the rest?

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                            • andy10v
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5996
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gigi
                              Can B3 limo be converted from FWD to AWD, without cutting anyting, just bolt on diff and the rest?
                              No, different floorpan.
                              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                              Sold ABY-stock

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