guys the bloke is after advice not a lesson on 4wd v's 2wd. gotta say you are kind of walking into it though.
in the world of drift 2wd rules really. its not on its way out, probly the opposite. look at this years gatebil.
4wd drifting is cool, 2wd is sensible and far more practical. i think the world of drift has seen every possible jap car concoction and a breath of fresh air can win things.
id look into trying to graft a volvo or nissan 2wd system to the audi engine. get an old 4 cyl block (same bolt positions really 10 a penny) and start fabricating. the audi tends to drift with the front end first.
350hp is no worries on the engine. big turbo will give the cred but maybe not the delivery you want. maybe a kkk hotside gt3071 is the answer.
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Don't think just disconnecting/removing front driveshafts will work. The torsen centre diff will have a very hard time with that.Leave a comment:
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That sort of power isn't going to be cheap, in fact it is possibly prohibitively expensive, especially as the car will then have to be modded to make it RWD
Don't forget, even if they don't look like it, S2s are extremely heavy for their size, this may have an impact on your ideas. Its easy to rip out the front drive shafts to turn it to RWD, but it will handle like a pig and I doubt you will get the control you require for drifting.
A better choice would be a porsche 928 or 944, cheap now, modable and RWD!
TVR?
If you fancy something a little out of the ordinary, with tons of torque, rear drive and turbo then I would go for a, wait for it, you won't like it, but a Volvo 240 turbo!Leave a comment:
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Just get a big turbo and some nice cams and cut the blue wire and you can drift all day. I can do drift with my car and it's a 500 (AWHP) avant
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Why on earth would you start with a 4WD chassis just so as to downgrade it into RWD format for drifting ? Each to their own I suppose, but I think your approach is a bit odd - the geometry of the Audi Coupe is setup for FWD or 4WD.
Sure you'll have lower transmission loss with RWD, but you'll also have lots less traction - I don't have much truck with the drifting scene myself. I prefer to see cars go round the track as quickly as possible... not as sideways as possible - though I do respect the skill it takes to control slides/drifts like that corner after corner. I imagine its more fun to do, than it is to watch.
I guess I'd be more interested if you wanted to take an S2, keep it 4WD and do something radical with quattro transmission to make it better suited to drift stylee driving. Trick diffs are available to give you LSD at the front, a rear centric bias in the centre diff and you can have an LSD at the rear - or just lock the normal open diff if you like. That and you can make the car very much stiffer with some ARB tricks (and harder springs)
You would need a big flat torque profile to get thing anyway driveable in drift mode... I dunno if turbo engines are suited for that reason... Maybe a V8 non turbo is the way to go.
Getting power to the levels you require is easy bolt on stuff - but it aint free - search the forum for RS2 upgrades - if you want monster torque (above 550Nm) from the motor (assuming that 2WD can handle it) then you need a big-end upgrade as well.
I still think you are on the wrong page with the concept. Lets say you hit 400bhp - that is 200bhp per driven wheel. The phookin reason that Audi invented quattro was to prove its superior traction in all kinds of conditions... But hey if drifting is your thing then speed and traction aren't important (contraversial).
Just seems like a waste of a quattro really. Sorry - I've tried to be helpful here with some ideas if you are insistent, but I think your approach is fundamentally flawed !
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Newbie here with a load of questions!
Hi all, the name's Dave and I'm currently playing with an idea concerning an S2 coupe.
The other half and I are currently into the Drift scene and own a couple of Jap imports (Mine is an '85 AE86 Toyota, her's is an R33 Skyline).
I'm selling mine to settle a few bills and then hopefully that'll pave the way for an S2.
I might upset a few hardcore Quattro fans with my idea's for the S2 but I don't care, lol!
I plan the bin the 4WD and make it RWD, anyone done this or know of anyone that's done it? I thinnk it would make a very good drift car with the right mods. Also what sort of bits and bobs would I need to get between 350-400bhp? And any tricks to get 'free power' from these motors, I'm guessing my idea of making it RWD would free up some transmission losses in power.
So once again, hello all, and hope to hear from anyone concerning my idea
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