Newbie here with a load of questions!

[Animal Mother]

Animalmother, those old S6's look bloody huuuge!!! And also not that much cheaper than some S2 coupes I've been looking at. Personally I prefer the shape of the S2 aswell. Anyone got a link for/or an exploded diagram of an S2 quattro system?

S4/S6 are a little bigger but not much heavier than the S2. Performance figures are pretty similar.
You should get a nice S4/S6 for around 2 grand but an S2 will det you back at least 3.5 grand.

[DAVEDUDE]

Animalmother, those old S6's look bloody huuuge!!! And also not that much cheaper than some S2 coupes I've been looking at. Personally I prefer the shape of the S2 aswell. Anyone got a link for/or an exploded diagram of an S2 quattro system?

[Corey]

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[Animal Mother]

Or even one of these bad boys! Still an uberwagon so its ok.

Link

[RedTornado]

And Audi UrS4/UrS6 (original shape based on Audi 100 chassis). They are basically an S2 but are more easy to find in both saloon and Avant, plus, they are a great deal cheaper, and tend to be in better mechanical condition because they were uber pricey to begin with and usualy had owners with big budgets. Plus, buy one and I'll have some bits out of it from you! I'd say that this is something you should definately consider, especially an UrS4 as they had a wider track, less body roll and nice stiff springs. Linky for example.

why not keep it standard and do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-de2BOHfM5Q

i belive that is the same guy as the one with genral lee.

and yes the ''general lee'' themed audi 90 is quattro (awd) and it has over 500hp audi 20v engine.

[Animal Mother]

I have a couple more optins which may be more to your liking.

Audi V8 Quattro, stick a blower on it and weld up that diff!

And Audi UrS4/UrS6 (original shape based on Audi 100 chassis). They are basically an S2 but are more easy to find in both saloon and Avant, plus, they are a great deal cheaper, and tend to be in better mechanical condition because they were uber pricey to begin with and usualy had owners with big budgets. Plus, buy one and I'll have some bits out of it from you! I'd say that this is something you should definately consider, especially an UrS4 as they had a wider track, less body roll and nice stiff springs. Linky for example.

[DAVEDUDE]

Veeeeeeeeeeeeeery nice Mr redtornado sir! Was that thing still 4WD?

Also, an earlier query was weight, there's a dude in japan with a street legal drift toyota aristo (lexus gs300 over here) and those bleeders are hardly Colin Chapman material! Oh, and it also has full interior and 1000bhp! LOL

[RedTornado]

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/26/v...tro-drift-car/


i know this has been up before but :

Who Says Quattros cant drift?

[4WheelDrifter]

RWD Coupé.

[DAVEDUDE]

Thanks for the advice S2central, believe it or not there and quite a few old volvo's doing the rounds at club level drifting. They've manged to drop in 16v motors from the clio williams too, very entertaining I can tell you!

So it is do-able by locking the centre diff, or I guess getting a new prop made up and remove the centre diff altogether!

Does anyone have a highres piccy of the underside of an S2 by any chance they could post?

[S2central.net]

The flavour of 4WD used in quattro like the S2 is essentially a FWD system that has an additional diff (in the centre) to distribute torque to the rear. Nominally it works on a 50:50 split but depending in conditions it can swing to 70:30 either way... It transfers torque to the wheels that GRIP, not the wheels that slip !

Old quattro boxes had a lockable centre diff for fixed 50:50 split - the WRC cars ran like that with a special box that was just locked in the centre. The Torsen centre on the S2 is not lockable unless you want to trash one with a welder.

SO you can lock the centre and hijack the control circuit on the reardiff to lock it as well. That is gonna give you a lot of rear bias, but I have no idea what its gonna be like to drive - probably dangerous on the public roads but has potential for the drift thang.

Like all things, you could get a gearbox whizz to remove the centre diff altogether and direct all the torque to the rear if RWD is a must have - there is an Audi based kit car around with mid engine and 2WD gearbox that is oriented to drive the rear axle, but I doubt thats the sorta thing you wanna be drifting in - I dunno.

If I was you, I'd go for a Porsche 928 or 944 - right configuration for engine and chassis for what you wanna do - and it tastes of bratworst - not rice

The Volvo option could work too - bit dull to look at mind you, but you'd get noticed if you were able to win things in an old Volvo.

[DAVEDUDE]

I still reckon stripped out Porker with a supercharger would be the way to go!

Whenever I see those 944's I always think of Top Gear and laugh my *** off! Anyway, someone's already building one for drift next year with a Skyline motor in it.

[Animal Mother]

I still reckon stripped out Porker with a supercharger would be the way to go!

[DAVEDUDE]

Nice to hear both 'for' and 'against' sides of the story. Gazzag60 hit the nail on the head with the jap connection. There's a couple of BMW's making their way into the drift comp's.
I never knew the S2's were so front biased, what percentage of the drive goes where?
Also a couple of Subaru's have been converted for RWD and a couple of Evo 9's. They also had the centre diff locked/welded and a 2 way diff at the rear.

Not really fussed about the weight of the car as it will most likely be stripped of most of the creature comforts and a cage put in. Also I'm not interested in the car as an investment otherwise I'd never have dreamt of doing this to a car.
I used to be heavily into the whole VAG scene a few years back, had a selection of Golfs in MK1 2.0 16v flavour, MK2 2,0 16v, also a MK3 colour concept GTI. Wanted an S2 back then, but then we stumbled across a nice Skyline for sale (not the gtr but a RWD GTST)
I knew I'd upset a few people with my plans but I hope to break the Jap dominated drift competitions and from my VAG past I know this German muscle is very well put together and can take some punishment (dahlback racing anyone!)

I will listen to all sides, call me what you want (water off a ducks back and all that) but I think this is an interesting project to undertake.

Also the current EDC (european drift championship) doesn't allow 4WD cars to compete.

Cheers peeps, Dave

[Animal Mother]

I'm sure that loads of people on here don't care what you do to your S2 if you get it, it will be your car after all. Its just that I think most people on here feel it'll be the wrong car for what you want.
Ignore the nay sayers but listen carefully to those who appear to know what they are talking about.
Don't forget, these cars are now an investment aswell as a mode of transport.
If you are still going ahead with it, drop me a PM with your budget, I may be able to help you out!