July Offer Full Reverse Inlet Manifold and Intercooler conversion

[Technogym]

what is the difference between this kit and the one from pogea racing???

Tried to email pogea but no answer yet...

Anyone knows how this IM is compared to the Furans racing im??

Vegard

[Jamo]

Pogea racing is the same manifold but they trailor it with painting and engraving.

Furans manifold is dual plenum but ali and welded. This one is cast i.e won't pop under pressure or vacuum.

[Technogym]

OK, I was aware of the material difference, but seriously, is there a issue that a alu IM will pop??? Since the furans one is dual plenum it would have a signifficant better flowrate? Is there a known BHP limit for the Furans vs the Wagner?

I am about to go the reverse way this winter, but havent decided for what IM to go for. Also have the AC condenser issue, but will get rid of the aux rad as well know so guess it wont be any problem...

Vegard

[A80Avant]

javad has reached the 1000bhp stage with the wagner from what i read over at motorgeek,so if i went that way,it would be wagner.

[Jamo]

there are numerous threads on here of ali welding going. The wagner item has been tested to death by Javad and stood up to 800 bhp

Dual plenum will have less flow but the flow will be more even across the cylinders then again go to motorgeek and have a look at the flowing of the manifold and the wagner runners are all within 5% of each other.

Javad managed to pop one but this was one he had opened and then rewelded, see a trend?

If you have the money get an MTM one but will cost you near £1000

[urquattro-island]

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furans one will hold, jonus is running this on 1000bhp pluss engines...

[Jamo]

Jonus is using the single plenum manifold AFAIK not the dual plenum

[Technogym]

Ok, I am aiming for someplace between 700-800bhp, so then this kit will be capable of giving this without any problem?

Also, is this wagner set up to use with the 80mm throttlebody?

Noone here who has any experience with the furans one?

Cheers

Vegard

[Jamo]

No it's not setup for a large throttle body, any large throttle body over 70mm will need an adapter. See mark halligans thread regarding a mustang adapter

I would suggest you direct your questions to Lupo911 as he has attached his email address regarding your requirements from the kit.

I think though this thread is going a little track from Wagners offer to generic questions about IM's

[Technogym]

Thank You Jamo for the answers, but I mus also disagree regarding Your statement of this thread going off the track.

This is a thread wich is a offer to the public for one specific item. If there is no opening for people to ask questions about the actual item and also in that manner compare it to other products that are available on the market. It would be no point to have an "forum" thread on the "for sale"

But, the answer back again I guess will be: "start a new thread"... so lets do...


Vegard

[Jamo]

O.K i've spoken to Carsten and here are some dyno plots of cars running the Wagner IM

There are also two S2's running 9.8 and 10.6 1/4 mile times with the manifold

[Jamo]

Thank You Jamo for the answers, but I mus also disagree regarding Your statement of this thread going off the track.

This is a thread wich is a offer to the public for one specific item. If there is no opening for people to ask questions about the actual item and also in that manner compare it to other products that are available on the market. It would be no point to have an "forum" thread on the "for sale"

But, the answer back again I guess will be: "start a new thread"... so lets do...


Vegard

The thread is going off track as this thread is in the the sponsor area for offering discount products not open sections and we are now talking about large throttle bodie and furans manifolds.

[Rusty]

I think that open discussion on these matters is a good thing so perhaps it would be best to discuss the merits in a separate thread that does not encroach on Carsten's advertising space AND is easier to find in the future as it has a relevant name.

[GazzaG60]

me and a mate made a manifold from ali weleded with velocity stacks for a 16v. i made it to fit a VR6 TB or a Mustang 75mm i have. it pressure tested to 2 bar ok.

the good thing with cast is you can almost guaruntee it will be good. plus it looks almost stock and not racer like. the resuls speak for themselves.

i dont have one yet. i would like to buy this last kit but i dont think i have the pennies. on the S2 id go wagner. i like the tubular wagner i have and will go inlet and exhaust wagner soon.

>>off to check bank balance.>>

[Jamo]

I believe all custom manifolds have their place, I think the point is that there have been none ( yet ) report failures at high bhp level.

Do remember the manifold is available by itself.