July Offer Full Reverse Inlet Manifold and Intercooler conversion

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  • Technogym
    S2Forum Addict
    • Dec 2004
    • 200
    • Country: Norway

    #16
    what is the difference between this kit and the one from pogea racing???

    Tried to email pogea but no answer yet...

    Anyone knows how this IM is compared to the Furans racing im??

    Vegard

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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Pogea racing is the same manifold but they trailor it with painting and engraving.

      Furans manifold is dual plenum but ali and welded. This one is cast i.e won't pop under pressure or vacuum.

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      • Technogym
        S2Forum Addict
        • Dec 2004
        • 200
        • Country: Norway

        #18
        OK, I was aware of the material difference, but seriously, is there a issue that a alu IM will pop??? Since the furans one is dual plenum it would have a signifficant better flowrate? Is there a known BHP limit for the Furans vs the Wagner?

        I am about to go the reverse way this winter, but havent decided for what IM to go for. Also have the AC condenser issue, but will get rid of the aux rad as well know so guess it wont be any problem...

        Vegard

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        • A80Avant
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Sep 2005
          • 10873
          • Country: Greece

          #19
          javad has reached the 1000bhp stage with the wagner from what i read over at motorgeek,so if i went that way,it would be wagner.

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            there are numerous threads on here of ali welding going. The wagner item has been tested to death by Javad and stood up to 800 bhp

            Dual plenum will have less flow but the flow will be more even across the cylinders then again go to motorgeek and have a look at the flowing of the manifold and the wagner runners are all within 5% of each other.

            Javad managed to pop one but this was one he had opened and then rewelded, see a trend?

            If you have the money get an MTM one but will cost you near £1000

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            • urquattro-island
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Mar 2006
              • 1915
              • Home: Norway Current: Iceland

              #21
              the

              furans one will hold, jonus is running this on 1000bhp pluss engines...
              japanischer industriabfall nein danke!!
              www.rackeltrim.se Icelandic Division

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Jonus is using the single plenum manifold AFAIK not the dual plenum

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                • Technogym
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 200
                  • Country: Norway

                  #23
                  Ok, I am aiming for someplace between 700-800bhp, so then this kit will be capable of giving this without any problem?

                  Also, is this wagner set up to use with the 80mm throttlebody?

                  Noone here who has any experience with the furans one?

                  Cheers

                  Vegard

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    No it's not setup for a large throttle body, any large throttle body over 70mm will need an adapter. See mark halligans thread regarding a mustang adapter

                    I would suggest you direct your questions to Lupo911 as he has attached his email address regarding your requirements from the kit.

                    I think though this thread is going a little track from Wagners offer to generic questions about IM's

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                    • Technogym
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 200
                      • Country: Norway

                      #25
                      Thank You Jamo for the answers, but I mus also disagree regarding Your statement of this thread going off the track.

                      This is a thread wich is a offer to the public for one specific item. If there is no opening for people to ask questions about the actual item and also in that manner compare it to other products that are available on the market. It would be no point to have an "forum" thread on the "for sale"

                      But, the answer back again I guess will be: "start a new thread"... so lets do...


                      Vegard

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        O.K i've spoken to Carsten and here are some dyno plots of cars running the Wagner IM

                        There are also two S2's running 9.8 and 10.6 1/4 mile times with the manifold







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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Technogym
                          Thank You Jamo for the answers, but I mus also disagree regarding Your statement of this thread going off the track.

                          This is a thread wich is a offer to the public for one specific item. If there is no opening for people to ask questions about the actual item and also in that manner compare it to other products that are available on the market. It would be no point to have an "forum" thread on the "for sale"

                          But, the answer back again I guess will be: "start a new thread"... so lets do...


                          Vegard
                          The thread is going off track as this thread is in the the sponsor area for offering discount products not open sections and we are now talking about large throttle bodie and furans manifolds.

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                          • Rusty
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 18953
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            I think that open discussion on these matters is a good thing so perhaps it would be best to discuss the merits in a separate thread that does not encroach on Carsten's advertising space AND is easier to find in the future as it has a relevant name.
                            Cheers'en, AndyC
                            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                            • GazzaG60
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 4133
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              me and a mate made a manifold from ali weleded with velocity stacks for a 16v. i made it to fit a VR6 TB or a Mustang 75mm i have. it pressure tested to 2 bar ok.

                              the good thing with cast is you can almost guaruntee it will be good. plus it looks almost stock and not racer like. the resuls speak for themselves.

                              i dont have one yet. i would like to buy this last kit but i dont think i have the pennies. on the S2 id go wagner. i like the tubular wagner i have and will go inlet and exhaust wagner soon.

                              >>off to check bank balance.>>

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                              • Jamo
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 21750
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                I believe all custom manifolds have their place, I think the point is that there have been none ( yet ) report failures at high bhp level.

                                Do remember the manifold is available by itself.

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