Wagner intake manifold to high? on my Urquattro 20v-90

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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16


    That is vile!

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    • RallyQuattro
      S2Forum Buff
      • Jan 2010
      • 25
      • Country: Sweden

      #17
      Originally posted by Jamo
      16mm but that is a lot in clearance terms.

      You can drop the engine mounts down 8-9mm before it will hit the subframe, the engine is only affected by the subframe when dropped around 10mm

      I have nylon subframe bushes that space the subframe down further that I haven't used
      Yes i know 16mm is a lot, but it's no problem with S2 manifold..
      The problem is that wagner intake are 35mm higher !!

      I have custom made engine mounts = only 3mm clearance now to the subframe, see my pictures.

      If i space the subframe and lower the engine AND put in the S2 engine instead it might work..

      I bought the Wagner intake manifold for 2 reasons.
      1: looks like OEM manifold
      2: direct fit
      I now own: one red and one blue Urquattro 20v-1990, Urquattro A2 rallycar, 90q-85 20vt, S4-94 V8, GT coupe and S8-98

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      • Sonic
        Administrator
        • Jul 2006
        • 5514
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #18
        Originally posted by RallyQuattro
        2: direct fit
        Nothing modified is ever a direct fit... have found this out the hard way several times!
        S2Forum.com Administrator

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Exactly it can be done look at dj jones ur running the reverse Wagner without issues

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          • cooperquattro
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jan 2011
            • 815
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            i have wagner inlet on my urq with no issues..not a diesel block tho,and the 16mm higher must be the problem here..
            only way is to lower engine and lower(space the subframe)..this has been done before..
            why did you remove the origanal 20 v??
            crazy in my opinion.......a ur is light enough for the lower displacement

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            • Lupo911
              S2Forum Addict
              • Apr 2005
              • 312
              • Country: Germany

              #21
              when we made the Intake Manifold, 13 Years ago, there was no Stroker Block on the Market... first Testcar was a Urquattro... and the car runns stil on the Track

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              • RallyQuattro
                S2Forum Buff
                • Jan 2010
                • 25
                • Country: Sweden

                #22
                I have mounted 2.2L engine again and moved it 15mm back !
                but the intake manifold still takes in the hood

                You can not possibly have used the original placement of the engine in the urquattro you're talking about.

                I think now that I will mount the original intake manifold again and sell off this wagner inlet.
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                I now own: one red and one blue Urquattro 20v-1990, Urquattro A2 rallycar, 90q-85 20vt, S4-94 V8, GT coupe and S8-98

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                • QuattroFever
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • May 2006
                  • 1360
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by bikerjim
                  you need a bonnet like this
                  good god!!
                  Volcano ABY coupe

                  Ant

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RallyQuattro
                    I have mounted 2.2L engine again and moved it 15mm back !
                    but the intake manifold still takes in the hood

                    You can not possibly have used the original placement of the engine in the urquattro you're talking about.

                    I think now that I will mount the original intake manifold again and sell off this wagner inlet.
                    Must be your setup as it fits the UR







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                    • Wolfgang
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 250
                      • Country: Germany

                      #25
                      hey guys,

                      try this:



                      i´m going to use the MTM IM but this shouldn´t be a big difference concerning the throttle-body problem. i also don´t want to cut a hole into the hood....

                      best regards!
                      S2 Coupe ABY
                      S2 Sedan
                      S6 20V Avant
                      www.audis2.de

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                      • RallyQuattro
                        S2Forum Buff
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 25
                        • Country: Sweden

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Jamo
                        Must be your setup as it fits the UR
                        if I raise up the gearbox 2cm so goes the engine down in front just as it is free of 1mm from the hood.

                        what are you using for motor mounts and have you space down the subframe?

                        can you take picture with the grill away how much space you have between inlet and bonnet?


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                        I now own: one red and one blue Urquattro 20v-1990, Urquattro A2 rallycar, 90q-85 20vt, S4-94 V8, GT coupe and S8-98

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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Tha car belongs to a member djjones, if you are using 034 mounts there is a known issue that they make the engine sit higher than a car on stock engine mounts

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                          • URquattroGus
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 547
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            You can also check my project thread, very similar config a to Djones.
                            Angus

                            (1984 ur quattro)

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                            • cooperquattro
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 815
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              Originally posted by RallyQuattro
                              if I raise up the gearbox 2cm so goes the engine down in front just as it is free of 1mm from the hood.

                              what are you using for motor mounts and have you space down the subframe?

                              can you take picture with the grill away how much space you have between inlet and bonnet?


                              .
                              then thats the issue..gear box mouts too low or worn..i use 034 ones with no issues(but i have 6 speed)

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                              • RallyQuattro
                                S2Forum Buff
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 25
                                • Country: Sweden

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Lupo911
                                Actually, on a car, you can't see this spot. It makes no flow/power difference, where the pipe I located. This is the best spot to mount the isv valve.

                                Please feel free to send the intake back to us, if you are not happy with it.
                                OK, but you only pay the money back for the intake? or even for shipping cost?
                                I now own: one red and one blue Urquattro 20v-1990, Urquattro A2 rallycar, 90q-85 20vt, S4-94 V8, GT coupe and S8-98

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