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  • pasbogdan
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2009
    • 1160
    • Country: Romania

    #16
    Originally posted by K Simmonds
    S2 Avant would have better parts compatibility with a B4 saloon, the rear end in particular, and would be my first choice for what you want to do.

    Doing it without a complete doner will cost more in the long run and be much more difficult, trust me I've done a couple of engine swaps for customers and it's amazing how many little things like brackets and clips you need to do a tidy job.
    That should be the way in case of a sedan s2 replica.But if user wants just a 2.2 turbo engine on his car no need to buy an s2,just engine is ok.If he buys an s2 he will have an s2
    So if $$$$$$ is available sedan+aby avant will be the way to a rare car.Will get o1e gearbox,management etc.But is the budget so big?Members here sell cars with almost new prep engines 400 hp,at lower price that only engine and mods eated....

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    • newsh
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Aug 2003
      • 16226
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Here's a thought.


      S2 Coupe 3B Project


      Ur quattro restoration

      S2 Avant

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      • R5T
        S2Forum Addict
        • Jul 2012
        • 250
        • Country: England

        #18
        A thought .. But ideally just want running and known quantity to drop straight in with minimal effort haha .. What other engines would people suggest ? I'll turn this into a "which engine" thread .. What copied be easy ? More powerfully than the ABC ... Etc etc

        Dam


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        • Rusty
          Super Moderator
          • Jun 2004
          • 18953
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          V8 :d
          Last edited by Rusty; 18 January 2014, 10:45.
          Cheers'en, AndyC
          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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          • R5T
            S2Forum Addict
            • Jul 2012
            • 250
            • Country: England

            #20
            I would move earth, fire and water to put a v8 in it .. What though ? What v8 will fit, with minimal effort, link up to say a Quattro box, and would be cheaper than buying an 3B or ABY ?

            Sam


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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              There are lots of options. IMHO not worth the hassle unless you're going to stick a turbo or two on it. A remapped 20vt will have almost as much power and more torque than an Audi 4.2 and sound just as good, whilst being a far easier conversion. Now, the 5.0 V10 would be interesting
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • K Simmonds
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Dec 2007
                • 7627
                • Country: Wales

                #22
                Thinking a little out of the box so to speak but what about a VR6 of some sort? Not that easy but different.

                An I5 20V turbo really makes the most sense though.

                The £4K I quoted was a working budget to get a whole doner car and any new parts required along the way to do a proper job, a lot of this could be recouped by selling unwanted parts off. As Bogdan says you don't strictly need a whole car unless your trying to build an S2 Saloon replica, if you only used the parts you need to install the engine and not bother with five lug hubs etc you could get a lot of money back from breaking the doner.
                1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                1994 MTM RS2.
                1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                2000 B5 TQS.

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                • pasbogdan
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1160
                  • Country: Romania

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Error404
                  There are lots of options. IMHO not worth the hassle unless you're going to stick a turbo or two on it. A remapped 20vt will have almost as much power and more torque than an Audi 4.2 and sound just as good, whilst being a far easier conversion. Now, the 5.0 V10 would be interesting
                  The v10 will need a mod engine hood,something like spq one,maibe little taller.Also brake pump/servo will get no space and a tilton/wilwood inside pedal plate will need to be mounted.The 01a/01e gbox have only 4 mounting points common on engine block and a thin adapter plate should be done.

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                  • R5T
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 250
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    I certainly don't have the budget for a V10 at the moment ! Lol

                    Keep getting badgered by my "jap" friends that I should stick an SR20DET in it, 2.0 turbo from an s14 Silvia .. Same sort of price as an s2 lump though .. Ideally if I was going to go 20vt I would literally just drop the engine in. Not after an s2 sedan rep, just a very quick saloon that makes a nice sound and goes "TOOOOSHHHH" occasionally


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                    • sam80quattro
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1496
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      1.8t with a half decent turbo on it. mine stands me far less than the cost of a 5cylinder 20vt and 275bhp 310ftlb

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        'mercuns love VR6 turbos in B4s. 034 do the conversion gubbins.
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • R5T
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 250
                          • Country: England

                          #27
                          Originally posted by sam80quattro
                          1.8t with a half decent turbo on it. mine stands me far less than the cost of a 5cylinder 20vt and 275bhp 310ftlb

                          I have considered this, but how hard are they to stick in ? How much fabricating ? And if I was still wanting to keep the Quattro set up as is, what box would fit etc ? And how much ?

                          Sam


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                          • sam80quattro
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 1496
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            i've done a 90q originally 10v and it literally bolted onto the box using the a4 clutch and flywheel. downpipe had to be made anyway for different turbo, passenger mount fit straight on from another 4 cylinder model and modified a a6 drivers side. although cab 1.8 mounts are said to fit straight on.. and today i done this to a fwd 80 lol

                            cost wise, buy a full a4/a6/passat cheap and sell what you don't need to recover costs. my first a4 cost £350 with full leather, sold it all minus leather and engine and made money. the last passat 1.8t i bought was 150...
                            so fairly cheap compared to the 5 cylinder.

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                            • R5T
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 250
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              This looks like a fees able option, have you got a completely build thread on your previous one ?

                              Sam


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                              • sam80quattro
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 1496
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                i dont.. but theres a few good 1s on here worth a look

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