Im going big revs........ discuss

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  • JP
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Mar 2007
    • 1858
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Yep as a general rule of thumb very little info out there re high reving engines as those that have built them have done so at the expense of many an engine tweaking the finer details. Same reason none of my answers include what I would deem to be specifics of dimensions and exact info as how to build it

    If you want a proper chat more than welcome.
    UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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    • Sleeper_Avant
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Mar 2009
      • 2372
      • Country: England

      #17
      JP, will send you a PM.

      Terry, i understand what you are saying now, your first post was just a bit cloudy were all here for the same thing.
      Your experience...... what is your experience? Im not familiar with any of your cars thats all.
      And thanks for Jonus`number

      i didnt post this to be a c ock or to cause an argument, just supplier and your experiences people

      Sean xxx

      Oh and i dont expect this to be an over night thing! My current engine will be used ad the dummy/mock up engine for the DTA managment, loom,manifolds, bodywork and chassis mods while the other engine is being produced from holy water, gypsey tears,unicorn sperm and dodo droppings
      1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
      1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
      BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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      • repo
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Dec 2004
        • 893
        • Country: Finland

        #18
        We used 9900 rpm rev limiter for whole season. So btdt.

        Need valve springs with over 40kg seat pressure and 125kg full open.

        Need cams over 250deg from 1 to 1mm.

        Need lift as much as You can do, enough for the lobe to hit the head without milling.

        Stock crank is fine, just make sure it is in balance and straight.

        Need dry sump and lot of oil pressure.

        Need racing tappets. Modded from oe won't do.

        And yes, need big hotside.
        Everything less than 2 bar is considered to be naturally aspirated

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        • Sleeper_Avant
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Mar 2009
          • 2372
          • Country: England

          #19
          Excelent info Repo,Thankyou

          although i do not know what btdt means

          we normally machine cosworth heads to obtain clearance for big big cams, so i expected this.

          Standard crank........ interesting......

          valve spring pressures i knew, and Ti retainers and possibly Ti lifters if available

          CAT cams produce these beauties........



          303 / 293° 268 / 258° 13.45 / 12.75mm 5.25 / 4.50mm

          MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
          1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
          1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
          BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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          • AndyP
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Feb 2004
            • 6049
            • Country: England

            #20
            btdt = Been there, done that
            sigpic
            1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
            1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
            1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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            • Sleeper_Avant
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Mar 2009
              • 2372
              • Country: England

              #21
              :mischeif: Ah, thanks Andy

              PMSL i knew that really
              1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
              1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
              BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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              • dkw_dude
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jul 2003
                • 555
                • Country: Norway

                #22
                It should something like this when done maybe?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejcfS...hannel&list=UL
                Hi revving is cool, do it!!
                What do you plan transmission wise, standard ratios will be quite tall if running very high rpm if I'm thinking right.
                Leif-Helge
                -91 S2 VEMS and Comp Turbo
                -12 B** 530XD Touring "S2 parts transporter, and daily driver"

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                • Audi_CQ
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 940
                  • Country: Norway

                  #23
                  High revving EVO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYaqskg3Wh0
                  So turbo engine can work at high rpm, but cost is high and reliability often takes a dive as rpm rises.....

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                  • Sleeper_Avant
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 2372
                    • Country: England

                    #24


                    0.58 1.09 1.19,1.29 seconds in are where the crucial noise is at......... propper porn sound and THE only reason i put a 5 pot in my A4, youtube videos made me fall in love with mental Audi I5`s, Martinsson, Jonus` 90, be-4-you.com RS2, its ALL their fault i bought £800 worth of 10v stuff in crates, and bought a 200TQ auto!

                    then i bought a URS4......... the rest is history lol

                    Revs are my single most amazing soundtrack with I5`s, not boost, or power, or torque........ all noise and i garuantee my car sounds like no other 5 Audi out there, very deep and boomy but thats what i wanted, noise! Now im hungry for more

                    my car, my money and instead of widebody, a house or holidays i have no interest in, im making myself happy by building my dream car

                    That Evo sounds insane! Love it lol!

                    *****Edited............ i posted the link lol!
                    Last edited by Sleeper_Avant; 23 June 2012, 21:28.
                    1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
                    1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
                    BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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                    • Sleeper_Avant
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 2372
                      • Country: England

                      #25
                      Transmission, well i run a very wide ratio`d DQY box and makes good use of the torque,

                      but im looking at big tooth straight cut gearsets, in RWD form i only have the rear diff to adjust ratios also,

                      this again is not massively important right now, but is on my "final fit" agenda,

                      i would like to use the car at ADI this year on track then once thats over, car is getting stripped and not on the road untill late next year with revised spec

                      no bodywork mods or huge changes other than engine so it straight forward
                      1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
                      1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
                      BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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                      • Mcstiff
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 504
                        • Country: United States

                        #26
                        I'll try to find some posts but basically it was using the tall deck with a std deck crank and the appropriate (longer) rods for better rod ratio/higher RPM instead of longer stroke/more displacement.
                        1995 1PissedOff90sigpic1991 USDM CQ 7aT

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                        • AQTdriver
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          search for ''carbon destroyer'' - there's some revs for you!
                          Last edited by AQTdriver; 23 June 2012, 22:41.
                          '93 S2 Avant breaking
                          '95 S6 Avant sold
                          '83 80 Quattro SWB
                          '85 90 Quattro
                          '85 200 Quattro 10V sold

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Mcstiff
                            I'll try to find some posts but basically it was using the tall deck with a std deck crank and the appropriate (longer) rods for better rod ratio/higher RPM instead of longer stroke/more displacement.
                            That's in the 95.5 thread on motorgeek from years ago it started as a rod ratio debate

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                            • Mcstiff
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 504
                              • Country: United States

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jamo
                              That's in the 95.5 thread on motorgeek from years ago it started as a rod ratio debate
                              It is been mentioned a few places more recently.
                              1995 1PissedOff90sigpic1991 USDM CQ 7aT

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                              • JP
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1858
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Mcstiff
                                I'll try to find some posts but basically it was using the tall deck with a std deck crank and the appropriate (longer) rods for better rod ratio/higher RPM instead of longer stroke/more displacement.
                                Not necessarily the best route unless going oval track racing.
                                UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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