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  • anthonys2
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Mar 2009
    • 3512
    • Country: England

    #1

    Getting my car sorted!!

    Guys need a little advice here ive managed to get my hands on a very good front sub frame and also a very good rear one which will arrive shortly. Now I want my car to feel great and feel new again so what would you recomend doing to make this happen? About 5 years ago I put koni inserts in and put poly bushes alround to. Am putting all new bushes on with these sub frames anything else to change whilst the car be in bits?
  • willg54
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2009
    • 2055
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    check your fuel lines at the rear. much easier to replace when the rear subframe is out. check rear diff for leaks too
    1996 Audi S2 - 295bhp and 326lb/ft - Complete Rebuild Project

    1994 Audi 80 - 2.0 8v (slow but reliable!)

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    • newsh
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Aug 2003
      • 16226
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Fit new top mounts, check the ball joints and free off the track rod adjusters ready for a proper 4 wheel alignment, I'd do the rear diff mounts and the gearbox mounts too if they've not been done for a few years.

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      • mcandmar
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Apr 2004
        • 5118
        • Country: Ireland

        #4
        If you are a keen driver consider fitting solid alloy subframe mounts instead of the rubber ones, greatly improves the feedback and accuracy of the car. Downside is a little bit more noise and vibration, but IMO poly bushings are more detrimental to comfort than solid subframe mounts. They sound more drastic than they are.
        91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
        93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
        94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          Originally posted by mcandmar
          IMO poly bushings are more detrimental to comfort than solid subframe mounts.
          Why?
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
          Sold ABY-stock

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          • Error404
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2007
            • 19789
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            I'm considering moving to solid subframe bushes - if you think about it, with the subframe fully locked down to the chassis, it basically acts as a big chassis brace itself
            The only thing holding me back would be the car being too harsh, but i've never been in an S2 with solid mounts.
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            • mcandmar
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Apr 2004
              • 5118
              • Country: Ireland

              #7
              Originally posted by andy10v
              Why?
              Because the difference in comfort between OE bushings and Poly bushings is greater than the difference between OE Subframe Bushings and Solid Subframe Bushings.

              The difference is subtle enough i doubt a passenger could tell the difference, but once the suspension is loaded up in a corner the driver will notice a big difference.
              91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
              93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
              94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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              • anthonys2
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Mar 2009
                • 3512
                • Country: England

                #8
                Thanks Guys apprecaite the feedback its always useful to get as much info as possible its not to often your rear sub frame gets completely overhauled!! konis should be still ok only been on for 5-6 years and car does a max of 8k miles a year last year it did 5k

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                • andy10v
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5996
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mcandmar
                  Because the difference in comfort between OE bushings and Poly bushings is greater than the difference between OE Subframe Bushings and Solid Subframe Bushings.

                  The difference is subtle enough i doubt a passenger could tell the difference, but once the suspension is loaded up in a corner the driver will notice a big difference.
                  Thanks for the explanation.
                  Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                  Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                  Sold ABY-stock

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                  • Fat Audi 80
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10547
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    I am running Supaflex subframe bushes (I have a spare set for sale ) and think they feel great. IMO they are no worse than OEM in terms of NVH, but significantly improve the handling and feel of the car. I have also replaced the wishbone bushes with Powerflex, changed the rear diff mount to powerflex and replaced the engine and gearbox mounts with new OEM ones while the front subframe was down.

                    The car drives better than new and feel amazing.

                    HTH

                    Cheers,

                    Steve
                    The Perfectionist
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                    • anthonys2
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3512
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                      I am running Supaflex subframe bushes (I have a spare set for sale ) and think they feel great. IMO they are no worse than OEM in terms of NVH, but significantly improve the handling and feel of the car. I have also replaced the wishbone bushes with Powerflex, changed the rear diff mount to powerflex and replaced the engine and gearbox mounts with new OEM ones while the front subframe was down.

                      The car drives better than new and feel amazing.

                      HTH

                      Cheers,

                      Steve
                      Thanks Steve il let you know

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