M.O.T changes since th 1st of Jan

[andy10v]

Excessively expensive to repair to a "new" MOT pass standard at a guess.

[andy10v]

Is there a definiton of what an illegal modification is?

Is it just things that are illegal for road use, eg flamer kits? As engine swaps, turbos etc are not illegal afaik, as long as executed properly, and insured etc.

[baltiboyS2]

What do you mean scrapped? why are the cars being scrapped?

Weighed in for cash £150 per tonne the cost in getting the parts and labour out weighed the cost of the car it was a crap Reno laguna but the old boy loved his car

cheers Raj

[20Vcqdriver]

Weighed in for cash £150 per tonne the cost in getting the parts and labour out weighed the cost of the car it was a crap Reno laguna but the old boy loved his car

cheers Raj

And there are a lot of oldies who cannot afford to get another car, my mum has already said that if the car suddenly needed a lot of expensive work she would scrap it and stop driving. Another way of getting old people off the roads.

[audinut]

Dunno what all the fuss is about - all these MOT changes are also covered by advisorys and they dont come into FULL effect until april , Im an MOT tester and unless you get a complete ******** of a tester most things will be fine! If your tester is presenting you with failures for items that do not really affect wether the car is safe (and subsiquently offering you repair choices with a hefty bill) then your at the wrong MOT station! At our garage we try to help people with there MOT and it seems this is what people actually want and it helps us to retain many many regular customers.

[Rikki Kitto]

So the test will be more strict but there will be a longer time in between tests for deterioration, damage and wear n tear to ensure it becomes unviable to repair. Thus, as previously mentioned, encouraging new car purchases.
Why don't governments and eu knobs stop wasting our taxes trying to work out how to get more of the taxes out of us and concentrate on making the world a better place the feckless tossers.

Here here

[baltiboyS2]

Dunno what all the fuss is about - all these MOT changes are also covered by advisorys and they dont come into FULL effect until april , Im an MOT tester and unless you get a complete ******** of a tester most things will be fine! If your tester is presenting you with failures for items that do not really affect wether the car is safe (and subsiquently offering you repair choices with a hefty bill) then your at the wrong MOT station! At our garage we try to help people with there MOT and it seems this is what people actually want and it helps us to retain many many regular customers.

I will bring this up with the guy then he failed balljoints anti roll bar links for the rubbers being deteriorated infact the wording was

dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents ingress of dirt ?? even though the joint is full serviceable

As i was aware this was only a advisory and should be until April


cheers Raj

[baltiboyS2]

The only part which is factored in the bedding in procedure is in Annex B

Headlamp leveling and cleaning devices when fitted for HID or LED headlamps
Main beam tell-tale
Battery (including batteries for electric or hybrid vehicles)
Electrical wiring and connectors
Trailer electrical socket security and damage
Operation of 13-pin trailer electrical sockets using an approved trailer socket tester
Operation of the steering lock (where fitted) including that malfunction warning is not displayed for an electric steering lock
Electronic power steering malfunction warning indicating a fault
Electronic parking brake control and malfunction indicator lamp
Electronic stability control (ESC) components, including the switch (if fitted) and malfunction warning
Brake fluid waring lam illuminated or inoperative
Tyre pressure monitoring system
SRS components including airbags, seat belt pre-tensioner, seat belt load limiters and SRS malfunction warning lamp
Engine mountings
Speedometer
Indirect vision devices (where they replace obligatory mirrors)


Class 5

Electronic braking system warning device
Entrance/exit steps and doors
Door remote and emergency controls
Door open warning devices
Stairs
Emergency exit signs, windows and break glass hammers

Reading through the documents these are the only bedding in items but there has been a raft of other things that were advisories which are now fails in Annex A

cheers Raj

[audinut]

The only part which is factored in the bedding in procedure is in Annex B

Headlamp leveling and cleaning devices when fitted for HID or LED headlamps
Main beam tell-tale
Battery (including batteries for electric or hybrid vehicles)
Electrical wiring and connectors
Trailer electrical socket security and damage
Operation of 13-pin trailer electrical sockets using an approved trailer socket tester
Operation of the steering lock (where fitted) including that malfunction warning is not displayed for an electric steering lock
Electronic power steering malfunction warning indicating a fault
Electronic parking brake control and malfunction indicator lamp
Electronic stability control (ESC) components, including the switch (if fitted) and malfunction warning
Brake fluid waring lam illuminated or inoperative
Tyre pressure monitoring system
SRS components including airbags, seat belt pre-tensioner, seat belt load limiters and SRS malfunction warning lamp
Engine mountings
Speedometer
Indirect vision devices (where they replace obligatory mirrors)


Class 5

Electronic braking system warning device
Entrance/exit steps and doors
Door remote and emergency controls
Door open warning devices
Stairs
Emergency exit signs, windows and break glass hammers

Reading through the documents these are the only bedding in items but there has been a raft of other things that were advisories which are now fails in Annex A

cheers Raj

Yea so the failure items you mentioned were only advisorys!

[diesel des]

Rally cars are going to get it tight on the ecu bits then...

[baltiboyS2]

No the M.O.T tester put the items on the reason for refusal i will go and have a chat with them on monday and get this sorted

cheers Raj

[220bhp]

Still confussed,is it from 1st Jan, or is it April,my MOT is out on the 24of this month,do I need to sort my headlight washers,as I have hids.
And as far as next year,do I need the cats replaced on my Jan 1991 3b.

[1781cc]

did you have cats on the stock car? mine is a 1991 and it didn't have them, so I am under the impression that if the car didnt have cats as standard, it shouldnt fail because of it.

I mean, say you had a '79 alfa spider, no way it had cats, surely they cant expect a non-cat car to magic up cats.

[andy10v]

did you have cats on the stock car? mine is a 1991 and it didn't have them, so I am under the impression that if the car didnt have cats as standard, it shouldnt fail because of it.

I mean, say you had a '79 alfa spider, no way it had cats, surely they cant expect a non-cat car to magic up cats.

I think the confusion is with the early 3b s2s. which came with cats from the factory, but only had to pass the non cat emissions test.

[1781cc]

I see... I was just applying it to my car as its a 1991 and didn't have any cats! be good to get a clarification on it though if I do end up getting an S2 at some point (which I plan to)