Cheap Trackday Car- MK2 Golf GTi 16V?

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  • URquattroGus
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Aug 2007
    • 547
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Cheap Trackday Car- MK2 Golf GTi 16V?

    Yesterday I was daydreaming, as you do, about buying a nice light, simple car for trackday fun.

    There seem to be a few MK2 Gti's that have allready been stripped out or extensively modified.

    Some have the original KR 1.8 engine and some have the 2.0 ABF engine fitted from the MK3, a friend used to have a Gti 16v and I seem to remember it loved to rev, and was good fun.


    Does anyone have any experience with these cars? When I look at the photos the mechanicals have that familiar VAG feel and layout that I have sortof become used too which is always a plus point.

    What do you guys think? Was looking at cars bet6ween 1K and 3K.
    Last edited by URquattroGus; 17 January 2013, 14:59.
    Angus

    (1984 ur quattro)
  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Lots of experience with a friend's valver track car. They're cheap until you start buying proper parts for them.although there are lots of secondhand parts available. It's fast, reliable and fun.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • Big Lee M
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jun 2007
      • 2571
      • Country: England

      #3
      ABF lumped Mk2 goes like stink my mate has one very good cheap fast conversion. But the only problem is there's no good cheap mk2's about any more. Good luck with your search if love a mk2 again.
      Just some finishing touches to do now

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      • SE_30
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Apr 2010
        • 1114
        • Home: England Current: Israel

        #4
        I used to own a mk2 with a ABF lump in her. Originally a white 16v big bumper on a H plate. She used to rev and go like a scalded rat, I owned her for 8 years and when the time came to sell I regretted it very much. She was kicking out around 190bhp with different cams, polished & ported head, exhaust, filter etc. I clocked up some points in that car that's for sure.. Only real issue is the ABF being a taller block so you have to chop the engine mounts to get the bonnet to shut properly, or the bonnet sticks up at the rear. if you can find the bits relatively cheap I'd say go for it, but you can grab a scruffy 1.8t mk2 for not much extra money.
        Stuart
        B2 90 quattro with boost

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        • TimE-J
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2009
          • 1292
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          I've got a mk2 track car, was in the middle of building back up before I took the s2 off the road. I'd recommend a mk2 to anyone, they're great on track!
          96 S2 aby Coupe. Rebuild Project
          96 mk3 golf tdi daily.

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          • sam80quattro
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Oct 2006
            • 1496
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            there's an ideal gti just came on gumtree today.. its in durham, found it on my phone earlier otherwise i'd post a link.. white big bumper gti £400 if i remember right

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            • Le S2 Audi
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Jul 2009
              • 3805
              • Home: Scotland Current: England

              #7
              Originally posted by URquattroGus
              Yesterday I was daydreaming, as you do, about buying a nice light, simple car for trackday fun.

              There seem to be a few MK2 Gti's that have allready been stripped out or extensively modified.

              Some have the original KR 1.8 engine and some have the 2.0 ABF engine fitted from the MK3, a friend used to have a Gti 16v and I seem to remember it loved to rev, and was good fun.


              Does anyone have any experience with these cars? When I look at the photos the mechanicals have that familiar VAG feel and layout that I have sortof become used too which is always a plus point.

              What do you guys think? Was looking at cars bet6ween 1K and 3K.
              I've got a 3 Door Stripped shell with whats left of the 16V Lump...

              But would make a basis to start on, you can pick up MK3 16V's for a few hundred quid as the engine donner...

              I'm only looking for scrap money plus a few quid £150.00....

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              New S2 - S8 & RS2 -RS6 Keyrings

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              • stocious
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jul 2012
                • 838
                • Country: Ireland

                #8
                use CIS and tune the shizz out of it lol. and they all be wondering what the fack is goin on when your hooning around .. old scool. audi 6a engine and get a kr for parts. kr mani kr cam. kr valve guides 3 degrees on cam timing i think. great fun and noise and looks when they realise its still CIS..
                1991 S2 3B Coupe, KW v1, solid sub frames, poly bushed, chipped, about 260 ish

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                • Monkeymagic
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 3419
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  I've got a tidy oak green 1990 1.8 16 valve with ebc brakes and koni coil overs for sale for 2.5k if interested. its had lots done and stripped out makes them very light. you can use the 2 litre abf block and fit Original kr head as cam is better for power. she's properly set up not like many that won't idle. even the mfa works. replaced all gear box links and suspension ball joints so its tight. you can pick up 2 litre blocks for 50 quid.

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                  • URquattroGus
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 547
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Thanks for all the info and offers guys, still sort of looking. Clio 172's look like arguably even better value...

                    However, the extra insurance and tax costs are scareing me a a little.

                    Maybe I should try the quattro on track, It does roll a bit and not sure how much I will cook the brakes, plus it's almost too fast, think I might end up rolling through the corners and pissing past people on the straight again and again.

                    My Focus RS is a company car, would probably be better to take that, but could get into some trouble there
                    Angus

                    (1984 ur quattro)

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                    • re2500
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • May 2007
                      • 2185
                      • Country: Wales

                      #11
                      I dont know if its of interest but i still have this:
                      Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                      03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                      01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                      "Difficult is worth doing"

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Clio 172 is a lot of fun, get a Cup for track use I've had a normal 172 for 18 months and it's a proper laugh, a mate had a 182 Cup before that. The insurance is a lot but the tax is £245/year, so not exactly much more than the pre 2002 rate. On the plus side, there's rarely any rust to worry about and you get at least 160bhp out of the box and parts are al readily available secondhand in good condition, so you don't have to spend years trying to get it all sorted... With some straight forward tuning, you can get some good power out of them and they sound great too, very similar to the Golf! Still, RE2500's 2.0 valver is old skool kool and you don't get that with a Cliault.
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • URquattroGus
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 547
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          The insurance is killing it for me, maybe trailer is the way to go!
                          Angus

                          (1984 ur quattro)

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                          • re2500
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • May 2007
                            • 2185
                            • Country: Wales

                            #14
                            Try SKY insurance? You could get a limited mileage policy that will probably be quite cheap? Forum discount too!!
                            Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                            03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                            01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                            "Difficult is worth doing"

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                            • prj
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6308
                              • Country: Estonia

                              #15
                              Why not take your UrQ to the track?
                              It would be a lot of fun to drive, obviously you don't want to crash it though
                              http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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